Rodrigo Duterte

Geschrieben von Kingjim, 16.03.2017 at 12:32

Geschrieben von RaulPB, 16.03.2017 at 12:25

Geschrieben von Kingjim, 16.03.2017 at 11:55

Listen here fake. We are talking about philippines and duterte..most of the drig addocts in philippines are poor people..and they commit crime..they contribute nothing to society..and those drug addocts doesnt want to cooperate.dont change the topic just bcause you said something stupid and can't back it up..and also you watch too many weird videos

Okey, speaking of philipines particularly, do you know about philipine's economic situation and availability of education and jobs? Maybe that has something to do with society's poverty there and the fact they prefer to do drugs rather than work for no money and with poor conditions.

Yeah they do drugs because of the enviroment.
But those poor people aren't to be blame if they didnt do drugs. Not all poor people do drugs. Those people who did drugs are the one that cause harm to innocent people in phillipines..and also it has been deatroying the nation for years..drugs caused it..these drug addicts became worse not because they're poor..but because they do drugs..and they became addicted and keep wasting money buying it.

Why arent you posing on original acc

Geschrieben von Kingjim, 16.03.2017 at 12:32

Yeah they do drugs because of the enviroment.
But those poor people aren't to be blame if they didnt do drugs. Not all poor people do drugs. Those people who did drugs are the one that cause harm to innocent people in phillipines..and also it has been deatroying the nation for years..drugs caused it..these drug addicts became worse not because they're poor..but because they do drugs..and they became addicted and keep wasting money buying it.

If they are that poor, then what money do they waste? And if they keep on buying drugs, that's because someone started a very effective advertising plan (probably taking advantage of their ignorance, so kudos to the educational system). Now that they are addicted, it is easy for you to criticise them for that but there's a story to it and I'm not sure we know it. Drugs didn't destroy the country, drug mafias did with the lack of attention from the government up to this point.

Geschrieben von Kingjim, 16.03.2017 at 12:13

Like i said.mthose who turned themselves in are protected..those that got killed are the ones that doesnt want to turn themselves in to go into rehab..and some of them runaway from rehab...and still do drugs..not just, that they are willing to kill for drugs..so theyre kinda a danger to innocent people..im also sad that it has to go this way..but having a drug addict family memmber i can tell you that drug is doing harm not the the drug addict alone but also to his close ones aswell

I understand that you guys thinks its cruel..but thats what happening in asia..especially phillipines...something has to be done for good

you really think, that a country without sufficient medical care, would take care of drug addicts who turned themselves in, besides putting them into prison and letting some just die of withdrawl symptoms. afterwards the exact same problems come back, they will still have PTSD, no future or whatever led them to use drugs in the first place.

and shooting them, will simply make more people traumatized. imagine your father, being shot when you were 4. over 4 grams of marijuana. the measurements are in no relation to the danger posed by those individuals anyways.

Geschrieben von Kingjim, 16.03.2017 at 15:49

its in their system

And who stablished that system, huh?

Geschrieben von Kingjim, 16.03.2017 at 17:33

I mean their body system

You realize that's not something they could chose alone... right? I feel like talking to a blindfolded guy who only sees the closest picture but doesn't pay attention to the whole scenario. Anyway, think what you like, I've lost enough time. See ya!

It's disgusting seeing how far people will try to go to make excuses for these degenerates

Geschrieben von Viruslegion, 16.03.2017 at 17:37

It's disgusting seeing how far people will try to go to make excuses for these degenerates

Just in case you're refering to me, I should say that what I'm trying to do, unsuccesfully, is to show how poor people are not the ones (or the only ones) to blame for having gotten this addiction. Understand what you want to, I am not responsible for any misjudgement or misunderstood you guys are obsessed with.

Geschrieben von Kingjim, 16.03.2017 at 17:40

Which is why drug is harmful..it gets you addicted to it..and once you dont get it you turn crazy..ive seen things like that happened in front of me

AGAIN: they did not chose drugs by themselves alone. Mafias and a lack of attention from the government are behind that. Stop repeating the same sentence without taking into account what I have contributed with...

Geschrieben von Kingjim, 16.03.2017 at 17:51

I'm just saying that drug is harmful..and whoever takes them by their own choice is going to be in a lot of trouble..

Is acohol a drug? Yes. Is it harmful? Depending on the dosis. Same goes for every other drug.

Geschrieben von RaulPB, 16.03.2017 at 21:08

Geschrieben von Kingjim, 16.03.2017 at 17:51

I'm just saying that drug is harmful..and whoever takes them by their own choice is going to be in a lot of trouble..

Is acohol a drug? Yes. Is it harmful? Depending on the dosis. Same goes for every other drug.

All ilegal drugs are at least twice harmful as alcohol. Weed causes you a change of character, and can lead you to schizophrenia and it was demonstrated by several very important studies.With every consumption you become more addicted and you want more and more until you get too much and you die. That's a story of the life of a consumer of these drugs. Stop coming with your drug loving behaviour if you like drugs go and consume them but dont spread wrong ideas on the forum.

I have read some stuff on Duterte's War on Drugs. Shotting drug carriers or suspected consumers on sight? Without the minimal trial? Wow man, in wars, when Martial Law is decreeted, sometimes even the traitors were given a minimal trial. The situation got out of hand in such a way that there are Death Squads patrolling the streets and killing people who they thnk are related to drugs? Wow, this is like on Stalin's time "the enemy of the people," you can label anyone with that and make him dissappear, thus eliminating all your enemies. Useful pretext, ain't it?

So, bad af.

Geschrieben von Free_Warrior, 17.03.2017 at 02:49

All ilegal drugs are at least twice harmful as alcohol. Weed causes you a change of character, and can lead you to schizophrenia and it was demonstrated by several very important studies.With every consumption you become more addicted and you want more and more until you get too much and you die. That's a story of the life of a consumer of these drugs. Stop coming with your drug loving behaviour if you like drugs go and consume them but dont spread wrong ideas on the forum.

1: show me your proof that illegal drugs are twice harmful as alcohol.
2: show me your proof about this schizophrenia study and how weed can kill you.
3: I don't love drugs, I've actually never taken any except for alcohol, still I can behave realistically and without ignorant hate towards them.

Just be for real and show us those so called studies of yours....

Geschrieben von Viruslegion, 16.03.2017 at 17:37

It's disgusting seeing how far people will try to go to make excuses for these degenerates

I know

Geschrieben von Tundy, 17.03.2017 at 21:07

I know

Probably not.

Based Phillipe

Geschrieben von Columna Durruti, 14.03.2017 at 15:30

Please change the drugs you consume and your acquaintances and their drugs.
I have major in drugs and am as alive as the day I was born.
Besides, general rule: in most cases it's not the drug that kills, but the general situation of poverty added to the consumption of bad (in terms of quality) drugs. Or, to put it in other words: poor drug consumer die, if you are rich (or at least wealthy) you can do drugs and maintain a standard of living.
Following this logic: don't fight drugs, fight poverty!

Ah i see, bad quality drugs kill, thanks for explanation.

So if wealthy people do drugs, they dont die; only Jimi Hendrix, Janis Jopline, Jim Morrison, Amy Whitehouse. Oh and Keith Richards almost but he is 'wealthy' and pay for fresh blood every month to in Switzerland. I even know from the 90's one case in Serbia where son of Serbian premier died from drugs despite his father having millions of dollars he still died from 'quality' drugs, not to mention in Russia, kids of oligarchs, politicians and mafia. Or Ukraine, i can write for hours.

The only difference between poor and rich drug users is that rich users can afford large doses while poor need to steal thus creation crime. They both end the same way; death from overdose or organ failure.

You can keep lying to yourself that drugs are ok and sign of your freedom and choice, but in reality its a retarded thing that stupid people with weak character do. The only good thing is that drugs speed their death which is good selection for us humans: we, the smart ones live, while they die and make more room for us to use better.

p.s.
not to mention that good parenting and education will create a human who does not consume tobacco, alcohol and drugs, so thats a trait to take into account when you see a junkie

p.p.s
americans reached 85 years life on average, let's see in 40 years the average lifespan of their children who, today, started to use drugs, allowed by liberal laws
I'll bend over to Khalesi if they pass 60

Guys, the issue is not whether drugs are good or bad, we concluded that in other topic, this one is about if you agree with Duterte's policy. And from the current votes seems most agree with Duterte

Geschrieben von Columna Durruti, 17.03.2017 at 21:38

Geschrieben von Tundy, 17.03.2017 at 21:07

I know

Probably not.

Have you been in a gunfight? I have.

Geschrieben von Tundy, 18.03.2017 at 13:05

Geschrieben von Columna Durruti, 17.03.2017 at 21:38

Geschrieben von Tundy, 17.03.2017 at 21:07

I know

Probably not.

Have you been in a gunfight? I have.

C'mon, I grew up in Rio de Janeiro. Don't fool yourself.

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 18.03.2017 at 11:20

Guys, the issue is not whether drugs are good or bad, we concluded that in other topic, this one is about if you agree with Duterte's policy. And from the current votes seems most agree with Duterte

You concluded that drugs are bad.
You like human rights violations and mass murder.

Meanwhile UN adopts new focus on drugs... "putting people first".

Geschrieben von Columna Durruti, 18.03.2017 at 20:00

Geschrieben von Tundy, 18.03.2017 at 13:05

Geschrieben von Columna Durruti, 17.03.2017 at 21:38

Geschrieben von Tundy, 17.03.2017 at 21:07

I know

Probably not.

Have you been in a gunfight? I have.

C'mon, I grew up in Rio de Janeiro. Don't fool yourself.

Then you must know that people dont mind if colummna durruti Jr blows his daddy's fortune in coke. They also dont mind raul using his well earned money in weed. What people dont want is mr nobody to break into their house, rape their daughter and steal everything of value to buy their next fix.

Economically stable individuals can pay for their vices. Poor people steal and kill for them.

Geschrieben von Tundy, 18.03.2017 at 21:37

Then you must know that people dont mind if colummna durruti Jr blows his daddy's fortune in coke. They also dont mind raul using his well earned money in weed. What people dont want is mr nobody to break into their house, rape their daughter and steal everything of value to buy their next fix.
Economically stable individuals can pay for their vices. Poor people steal and kill for them.

Now you are coming closer to my argument.

But, no need to dramatise the picture with the "rape scene". Most people try to make a point by using "extreme cases" or examples that do not really have a generalisation value.

What if I told you that most junkies do not steal?
What if I told you that most rapes occur in family and/or by a person known to the victim?
What if I told you that alcohol induces to more crimes than any other drug?
What if...

Geschrieben von Columna Durruti, 18.03.2017 at 22:23

Now you are coming closer to my argument.

should i be worried about that?

Geschrieben von Columna Durruti, 18.03.2017 at 22:23

But, no need to dramatise the picture with the "rape scene". Most people try to make a point by using "extreme cases" or examples that do not really have a generalisation value.

While it may not happen as often, it is something that most people would be afraid of... like a plane crash or a shark attack.

Geschrieben von Columna Durruti, 18.03.2017 at 22:23

What if I told you that most junkies do not steal?
What if I told you that most rapes occur in family and/or by a person known to the victim?
What if I told you that alcohol induces to more crimes than any other drug?
What if...

i don't see why would you bring such statements into a topic about illegal drugs.Anyways I am going to be rude and take advantage of your rhetorical questions to ask you for sources

Geschrieben von Columna Durruti, 18.03.2017 at 20:09

You concluded that drugs are bad.
You like human rights violations and mass murder.

Meanwhile UN adopts new focus on drugs... "putting people first".

No i personally dislike hr violations and mass murder, but i can't go against democracy can i?

Majority of (philipine)people voted to fight drugs, and we must accept that, that's how democracy works. I just made this topic to see if non-philipines like or dislike the events there, and it seems majority agree.

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 19.03.2017 at 12:06

Geschrieben von Columna Durruti, 18.03.2017 at 20:09

You concluded that drugs are bad.
You like human rights violations and mass murder.

Meanwhile UN adopts new focus on drugs... "putting people first".

No i personally dislike hr violations and mass murder, but i can't go against democracy can i?

Majority of (philipine)people voted to fight drugs, and we must accept that, that's how democracy works. I just made this topic to see if non-philipines like or dislike the events there, and it seems majority agree.

You are wrong on this. Absolutely. Read Thoreau.

Geschrieben von Tundy, 19.03.2017 at 00:44

i don't see why would you bring such statements into a topic about illegal drugs.

Cause you related "illegal drugs" with these issues.
Btw, it's not about "illegal drugs", but rather on "hardcore drug policy", mass killings and human rights. Right?

On drug-related crime:
www.aic.gov.au (Australian Institute of Criminology)
www.unodc.org (United Nation's Office on Drugs and Crime)
www.ncjrs.gov (National Criminal Justice Reference Service)

On sexual violence:
www.nsvrc.org (National Sexual Violence Resource Centre)

Zitat:

"91% of the victims of rape and sexual assault are female, and 9% are male;
In eight out of 10 cases of rape, the victim knew the person who sexually assaulted them"

www.sexassault.ca (Information for Canadian victims of sexual abuse)
www.nsopw.gov (US Department of Justice)

Etc.

Geschrieben von Columna Durruti, 19.03.2017 at 19:39

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 19.03.2017 at 12:06

Geschrieben von Columna Durruti, 18.03.2017 at 20:09

You concluded that drugs are bad.
You like human rights violations and mass murder.

Meanwhile UN adopts new focus on drugs... "putting people first".

No i personally dislike hr violations and mass murder, but i can't go against democracy can i?

Majority of (philipine)people voted to fight drugs, and we must accept that, that's how democracy works. I just made this topic to see if non-philipines like or dislike the events there, and it seems majority agree.

You are wrong on this. Absolutely. Read Thoreau.

Have you seen my avatar? Do you know what it is and what it means?

How am i wrong because of the result made by millions of people? Democracy means 1 human = 1 vote, so i have only 1 vote, how am i wrong or bad because majority of people voted for something?

If you try to debate it, that mean you want to sway people and change their minds, and i think that's sabotage of democracy (sixth column??)

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 20.03.2017 at 17:56

Geschrieben von Columna Durruti, 19.03.2017 at 19:39

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 19.03.2017 at 12:06

Geschrieben von Columna Durruti, 18.03.2017 at 20:09

You concluded that drugs are bad.
You like human rights violations and mass murder.

Meanwhile UN adopts new focus on drugs... "putting people first".

No i personally dislike hr violations and mass murder, but i can't go against democracy can i?

Majority of (philipine)people voted to fight drugs, and we must accept that, that's how democracy works. I just made this topic to see if non-philipines like or dislike the events there, and it seems majority agree.

You are wrong on this. Absolutely. Read Thoreau.

Have you seen my avatar? Do you know what it is and what it means?

How am i wrong because of the result made by millions of people? Democracy means 1 human = 1 vote, so i have only 1 vote, how am i wrong or bad because majority of people voted for something?

If you try to debate it, that mean you want to sway people and change their minds, and i think that's sabotage of democracy (sixth column??)

Stop being ignorant!

READ THOREAU (and similars)

Stop being narrow-minded and having a reductive misconception of democracy.
Stop accusing me of not caring for democracy.
Ignorant.