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Verfasst von Tundy, 28.08.2015 - 16:39
Stop asking why map makers ban trolls from maps, and start asking yourself why don't you make your own maps.
02.09.2015 - 06:50
Well if you want to compare bloody hands, Croatian ones are more bloody than Serbian and even Russian and we know Russia is 5342 times bigger than Croatia. Serbs and Russians never planned to genocide and ethnically cleanse regions of the world from indigenous population.

1,000,000 killed from April 1941 to April 1945... who does that, what kind of beast is that.

250,000 ethnically cleansed from August 5 1995 to August 9 1995. Who does that...who celebrate that as victory and national holiday... not even Nazi Germany did such things, to make genocide of Jews a public holiday, atleast they kept it secret until Allies revealed death factories.
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02.09.2015 - 08:32
Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 02.09.2015 at 06:50

Well if you want to compare bloody hands, Croatian ones are more bloody than Serbian and even Russian and we know Russia is 5342 times bigger than Croatia.

Croatian hands are more bloody than Serbian and Russian

Tell me the number of your crack dealer..............

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 02.09.2015 at 06:50
Serbs and Russians never planned to genocide and ethnically cleanse regions of the world from indigenous population.

Umm, they never planned to genocide and ethnically cleanse?
Let me show you since you are not handling well with numbers and true history facts.
I am talking now about Serbians in only on 5 year period from 1990. - 1995., later I will add another things about Serbians and I will add Russians too.

Serbian agression on Croatia in numbers:
- 16 000 killed
- 37 000 wounded
- 2 500 still missing
- 402 babies and kids killed
- 1044 wounded babies and kids
- over 200 massive graves did by Serbians
- 30 000 civils in camps
- 550 000 ethnically cleansed Croatians in 5 years of war
- 122 totally destroyed catholic churches
- nearly 1000 damaged catholic churches
- 14 totally destroyed active hospitals
- over 600 cities, small towns and villages were attacked
- 35 towns razed to the ground
- 34 suffered excessive destruction
- Over 1 500 000 shells have falled on city called Vukovar in only 3 months.
- 35 000 000 000 € (35 billion) is total material and economic damage to Croatia

Serbian agression on Bosnia in numbers:
- 65 000 Bosnians killed
- 8 000 Croatians killed
- 3 372 babies and kids killed
- 31 active hospital attacked
- over 50 000 artillery projectiles have fallen on Sarajevo city
- 1 772 000 ethnically cleansed people from Bosnia (Bosnians and Croatians)
- 3 800 Bosniaks and Croats killed by Serbian snipers from buildings in Sarajevo
- over 5 000 massive graves did by Serbians
- 1096 totally destroyed mosques
- 8372 people killed in Srebrenica genocide
- 200 000 000 000 € (200 billion) total material damage to Central Bosnia

Well, asnwer me this:
How you call 1 500 000 fucking fired shells on one city in ONLY 3 FUCKING MONTHS ?
How you call 45 totally destroyed active hospitals which were full of civils during attack?
How you call 700 fallen shells per day on same hospital in Vukovar city?
How you call over 5 200 massive graves?
How you call 2 096 totally destroyed religious places?
How you call over 2 300 000 people displaced by force in only 5 years?
How you call 235 000 000 000 € of material damage?
How you call almost 4 000 killed children?

I CALL IT WAR CRIME WITH AIM OF GENOCIDE AND ETHNICALLY CLEANSE.

Let me add picture of 7-years old Nermin Divović who was shot and killed by Serbian sniper in Sarajevo just beacuse he was running on the street.



Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 02.09.2015 at 06:50
1,000,000 killed from April 1941 to April 1945... who does that, what kind of beast is that.

- The most precise and the most publicly accepted number of Ustashas victims from 1941.-1945. is saying from 45 000 - 52 000. Every other numbers are either reduced either increased, depends on nationality of historian who was researching it. Serbians are exaggerating that number to over 1 million as you are saying.
I will now ask one pretty simple question: How is it possible that there were killed over 1 000 000 - 1 200 000 Serbians (most of them in concentration camp Jasenovac) when in Independent State of Croatia (1941-1945.) lived 1 760 000 Serbians
In nowadays Croatian teritory there were - 544.000 Serbs
In nowarady Bosnian teritory there were - 1 216 000 Serbs
By that logic, over 60% of all Serbians from whole Croatia and whole Bosnia were killed and over 80% of them in one concentration camp.

Pretty miserable logic.

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 02.09.2015 at 06:50
250,000 ethnically cleansed from August 5 1995 to August 9 1995. Who does that...who celebrate that as victory and national holiday... not even Nazi Germany did such things, to make genocide of Jews a public holiday, atleast they kept it secret until Allies revealed death factories.

I already explained that those 250 000 displaced Serbians after Operation Storm (not during) was result of singing contract by Serbian rebel leaders.
Despite constant calls of Croatian president Franjo Tuđman to citizens of Serbian nationality to stay in Croatia, which guarantees them full citizenship , the largest number of Serbs at the request of their military and political leadership left Croatia in cars and tractors.
The order on the evacuation of Serbs from was signed by Serbian General Mile Mrksic and Mile Martic (!!!!).
Number of Serb refugees is assessed differently: Croatian sources say the figure of 90,000 people, the UN about 150,000, and the Serbian 200.000-250.000 (Incredibly pumped number again).

About the organized evacuation by Serbians testified one of the Croatian Serb rebel leader Milan Babic on May 9, 1995.
Here is statement of that Serbian rebel (!!!!) :
'For me, it seemed astonishing to hear that the Main Staff of the RSK army and President Mile Martić ordered a general evacuation of the Serbian population and the withdrawal of the army on all fronts lines in Knin, Northern Dalmatia and Lika, although on most lines of contact with the Army were not expressed serious combat and the Army is under the previous plan, and should be able to keep the approaches to Knin at least a month in which there were all the necessary conditions'.

To prove all of this, I have Serbian document about evacuation which was signed by Serbian General Mile Mrksic and Mile Martic:


Please, spare me your idiotic comments and provocations. I vomit every time I see your numbers, lies and bitching without a single constructive argument, please fucking spare me.

For last, I will just copy Phoenix's words, they couldnt be said more precise about you:

Geschrieben von Phoenix, 01.09.2015 at 12:31

Because you're talking shit in a public thread about something you clearly understand very little about and it's tiring reading so many dumb ass opinions from the same person.

I think you just need to get laid in order to realise this is all total bullshit and a waste of energy
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02.09.2015 - 11:42
Geschrieben von Croat, 02.09.2015 at 08:32

Serbian agression on Croatia in numbers:


I stopped reading here and had a good laugh. Croat still making up history He is so cute.
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02.09.2015 - 11:52
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Geschrieben von Croat, 02.09.2015 at 08:32

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 02.09.2015 at 06:50

Well if you want to compare bloody hands, Croatian ones are more bloody than Serbian and even Russian and we know Russia is 5342 times bigger than Croatia.

Croatian hands are more bloody than Serbian and Russian

Tell me the number of your crack dealer..............

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 02.09.2015 at 06:50
Serbs and Russians never planned to genocide and ethnically cleanse regions of the world from indigenous population.

Umm, they never planned to genocide and ethnically cleanse?
Let me show you since you are not handling well with numbers and true history facts.
I am talking now about Serbians in only on 5 year period from 1990. - 1995., later I will add another things about Serbians and I will add Russians too.

Serbian agression on Croatia in numbers:
- 16 000 killed
- 37 000 wounded
- 2 500 still missing
- 402 babies and kids killed
- 1044 wounded babies and kids
- over 200 massive graves did by Serbians
- 30 000 civils in camps
- 550 000 ethnically cleansed Croatians in 5 years of war
- 122 totally destroyed catholic churches
- nearly 1000 damaged catholic churches
- 14 totally destroyed active hospitals
- over 600 cities, small towns and villages were attacked
- 35 towns razed to the ground
- 34 suffered excessive destruction
- Over 1 500 000 shells have falled on city called Vukovar in only 3 months.
- 35 000 000 000 € (35 billion) is total material and economic damage to Croatia

Serbian agression on Bosnia in numbers:
- 65 000 Bosnians killed
- 8 000 Croatians killed
- 3 372 babies and kids killed
- 31 active hospital attacked
- over 50 000 artillery projectiles have fallen on Sarajevo city
- 1 772 000 ethnically cleansed people from Bosnia (Bosnians and Croatians)
- 3 800 Bosniaks and Croats killed by Serbian snipers from buildings in Sarajevo
- over 5 000 massive graves did by Serbians
- 1096 totally destroyed mosques
- 8372 people killed in Srebrenica genocide
- 200 000 000 000 € (200 billion) total material damage to Central Bosnia

Well, asnwer me this:
How you call 1 500 000 fucking fired shells on one city in ONLY 3 FUCKING MONTHS ?
How you call 45 totally destroyed active hospitals which were full of civils during attack?
How you call 700 fallen shells per day on same hospital in Vukovar city?
How you call over 5 200 massive graves?
How you call 2 096 totally destroyed religious places?
How you call over 2 300 000 people displaced by force in only 5 years?
How you call 235 000 000 000 € of material damage?
How you call almost 4 000 killed children?

I CALL IT WAR CRIME WITH AIM OF GENOCIDE AND ETHNICALLY CLEANSE.

Let me add picture of 7-years old Nermin Divović who was shot and killed by Serbian sniper in Sarajevo just beacuse he was running on the street.



Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 02.09.2015 at 06:50
1,000,000 killed from April 1941 to April 1945... who does that, what kind of beast is that.

- The most precise and the most publicly accepted number of Ustashas victims from 1941.-1945. is saying from 45 000 - 52 000. Every other numbers are either reduced either increased, depends on nationality of historian who was researching it. Serbians are exaggerating that number to over 1 million as you are saying.
I will now ask one pretty simple question: How is it possible that there were killed over 1 000 000 - 1 200 000 Serbians (most of them in concentration camp Jasenovac) when in Independent State of Croatia (1941-1945.) lived 1 760 000 Serbians
In nowadays Croatian teritory there were - 544.000 Serbs
In nowarady Bosnian teritory there were - 1 216 000 Serbs
By that logic, over 60% of all Serbians from whole Croatia and whole Bosnia were killed and over 80% of them in one concentration camp.

Pretty miserable logic.

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 02.09.2015 at 06:50
250,000 ethnically cleansed from August 5 1995 to August 9 1995. Who does that...who celebrate that as victory and national holiday... not even Nazi Germany did such things, to make genocide of Jews a public holiday, atleast they kept it secret until Allies revealed death factories.

I already explained that those 250 000 displaced Serbians after Operation Storm (not during) was result of singing contract by Serbian rebel leaders.
Despite constant calls of Croatian president Franjo Tuđman to citizens of Serbian nationality to stay in Croatia, which guarantees them full citizenship , the largest number of Serbs at the request of their military and political leadership left Croatia in cars and tractors.
The order on the evacuation of Serbs from was signed by Serbian General Mile Mrksic and Mile Martic (!!!!).
Number of Serb refugees is assessed differently: Croatian sources say the figure of 90,000 people, the UN about 150,000, and the Serbian 200.000-250.000 (Incredibly pumped number again).

About the organized evacuation by Serbians testified one of the Croatian Serb rebel leader Milan Babic on May 9, 1995.
Here is statement of that Serbian rebel (!!!!) :
'For me, it seemed astonishing to hear that the Main Staff of the RSK army and President Mile Martić ordered a general evacuation of the Serbian population and the withdrawal of the army on all fronts lines in Knin, Northern Dalmatia and Lika, although on most lines of contact with the Army were not expressed serious combat and the Army is under the previous plan, and should be able to keep the approaches to Knin at least a month in which there were all the necessary conditions'.

To prove all of this, I have Serbian document about evacuation which was signed by Serbian General Mile Mrksic and Mile Martic:


Please, spare me your idiotic comments and provocations. I vomit every time I see your numbers, lies and bitching without a single constructive argument, please fucking spare me.

For last, I will just copy Phoenix's words, they couldnt be said more precise about you:

Geschrieben von Phoenix, 01.09.2015 at 12:31

Because you're talking shit in a public thread about something you clearly understand very little about and it's tiring reading so many dumb ass opinions from the same person.

I think you just need to get laid in order to realise this is all total bullshit and a waste of energy


If that child was shot with a high powered sniper round he wouldn't have much head left...
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02.09.2015 - 12:01
Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 02.09.2015 at 11:42


I stopped reading here and had a good laugh. Croat still making up history He is so cute.


Translated version: I dont have any constructive and valid argument against yours.

Deja vu.
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02.09.2015 - 13:54
There was debate already Raskolnikov, i dont want to repeat it like you and tik-tok, i am no a parrot.

Everyone who have basic knowledge about Yugoslav Civil War would know that Serbia didnt exist back then. Therefore Serbia could not 'have aggression' on Croatia. Even Croatia back then was break away entity with communist internal borders and ultra-nationalist group leading it without international recognition.

Geopolitically, this is good so we can use it as a proof, because we know there is no room for emotions in geopolitics, while ethically and morally we know it is tragic and horror when people dies. But Western World supported ultra-nationalist break away entities Slovenia and Croatia, and now 20 years later Western World dont support break away entity Donetsk and Luhansk. They support Kiev government, but they didnt support Belgrade government 20 years ago, although it was recognized and legal according to international law.
This is proof that Western World doesnt care for law or civilization and care only for wealth and money, which they obtain by colonization, imperialism, war and violence.

That is why Vladimir Putin is thorn in their eyes, because he made third world country Russia into great power and made alliance with another great power China, and they oppose Western World's domination and hegemony.
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02.09.2015 - 14:48
Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 02.09.2015 at 13:54

There was debate already Raskolnikov, i dont want to repeat it like you and tik-tok, i am no a parrot.


Tito, why you scared of quoting me?

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 02.09.2015 at 13:54

Everyone who have basic knowledge about Yugoslav Civil War would know that Serbia didnt exist back then. Therefore Serbia could not 'have aggression' on Croatia. Even Croatia back then was break away entity with communist internal borders and ultra-nationalist group leading it without international recognition.


Serbia didnt exist back then

Everyone who have basic knowledge about Croatian Independent War would know that Yugoslavia is federal republic.

It is obvious you dont know the meaning of federal republic, so I will teach you:
Federal republic = Federation
Federation is community of more units called states, republics, provinces, countries. In this case, Yugoslavia was federation made up of present countries:
- Croatia
- Serbia
- Bosnia and Herzegovina
- Slovenia
- Montenegro
- Macedonia
And 2 autonomous regions:
- Vojvodina
- Kosovo (Which is today an independent country)

In fact, the Constitutions give federal units the right to secede from the federal units of the federation.
There are some extremely decorated federations which is significantly emphasized a high degree of centralization of one unit, while others lose their sovereignty.
They are bordering with dictatorship, but Yugoslavia wasnt that case.

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 02.09.2015 at 13:54

Geopolitically, this is good so we can use it as a proof, because we know there is no room for emotions in geopolitics, while ethically and morally we know it is tragic and horror when people dies. But Western World supported ultra-nationalist break away entities Slovenia and Croatia, and now 20 years later Western World dont support break away entity Donetsk and Luhansk. They support Kiev government, but they didnt support Belgrade government 20 years ago, although it was recognized and legal according to international law.
This is proof that Western World doesnt care for law or civilization and care only for wealth and money, which they obtain by colonization, imperialism, war and violence.


Croatia had the right to secede from federation peacefully and used it.
On 25 June 1991. , Croatia was officially recognized by the UN.
Since then, Croatia is not federal unit, but republic.

During June, Serbian extreme rebels and terrorists continued to cut down trees on Croatian roads and doing riots with aim to seced a Croatian teritory which they called SAO Krajina.
It was the beggining of Croatian Independence War, since the Serbs proclaimed SAO Krajina on his own, without international recognition.







After Serbian ultra-nationalist rebels and terrorists killed first Croatian victims, the war was inevitable.
I really thought you know some things, but you just have proven you know fucking nothing about Yugoslavia, Croatian Independence War or Serbian terrorist who started it and who you are fapping on.
Whatsmore, comparing Croatia with Ukraine is for people who know nothing about case and law, but they feel like some smartasses because it looks similiar to them.
Well, it is not either similiar, especially not same.

Yugoslavia was federation. Croatia had the right to secede from the Yugoslavian federation as its federal unit. Each federal unit has same right. Slovenia used it too on same day.
Ukraine is republic. No federal units. Russian terrorists are rebeling and proclaiming their states on Ukrainian teritory same as Serbian terrorists rebeled and were proclaiming on Croatian teritory.

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 02.09.2015 at 13:54
That is why Vladimir Putin is thorn in their eyes, because he made third world country Russia into great power and made alliance with another great power China, and they oppose Western World's domination and hegemony


You again running from theme to Putin and Russia. Stop trying to build your 'arguments' with another themes. We are talking about things between Croatia and Serbia.
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02.09.2015 - 15:31
Geschrieben von Croat, 02.09.2015 at 14:48

Serbia didnt exist back then


No, there was Yugoslavian federation. Modern Serbia is successor of Serbian Kingdom from 1914. Croatia is successor of Croatian Kingdom from 1102.

Geschrieben von Croat, 02.09.2015 at 14:48

In fact, the Constitutions give federal units the right to secede from the federal units of the federation.


Nope, SFRY constitution from 1974 wasnt clear on that. It just copied blured version of Soviet Constitution from 1937. It wasnt clear if ethnic groups or republics could break away. Then whether capitalist regime or current communist could, or economy and financials, who get what during secession process. Nothing explained.

http://www.arhivyu.gov.rs/active/sr-latin/home/glavna_navigacija/leksikon_jugoslavije/konstitutivni_akti_jugoslavije/ustav_sfrj_1974.html



Geschrieben von Croat, 02.09.2015 at 14:48

Croatia had the right to secede from federation peacefully and used it.


As i said above, it wasnt clear what entity. You just picked what suited you and did it thus violating law. There wasnt Croatia, but Socialist Republic of Croatia which was only Federal Unit and not full-fledged republic. Thats like Autonomous Republic in USSR.

Another your lie is that seceded peacefully, because Croatian terrorists armed themselves and started war with minority ethnic groups and against Federal Government of Yugoslavia.

Yugoslav police taped terrorists making plans to start war and genocide in Yugoslavia:



Croatian terrorists were funded by America and Germany which sent weapons from Argentina (large nazi hub) and Hungary (collapsed communist state).

Assault on Yugoslav Army barracks called 'Battle of Barracks' by terrorists armed them even more as they got heavy weapons, tanks and artillery.


Geschrieben von Croat, 02.09.2015 at 14:48

On 25 June 1991. , Croatia was officially recognized by the UN.
Since then, Croatia is not federal unit, but republic.


But but but Croatia declared independence in October 9th? So how could UN recognize it 4 months earlier? Was that staged UN show?


Geschrieben von Croat, 02.09.2015 at 14:48

During June, Serbian extreme rebels and terrorists continued to cut down trees on Croatian roads and doing riots with aim to seced a Croatian teritory which they called SAO Krajina.
It was the beggining of Croatian Independence War, since the Serbs proclaimed SAO Krajina on his own, without international recognition.


As Croatia illegally broke away from Yugoslavia, Serbian Kraina used it to brake from Croatia. We have historical precedent, West Virginia seceded from Virginia when Virginia joined Confederation in American Civil War. Croatian Serbs didnt go to Croatia but Croatians tried to enter Serbian Kraina. Same like Ukrainians want to enter Donbass.

Croatia was land of Croats and Serbs and other minorities, that mean Serbs have right on Croatian land as much as Croats do, and they just seceded from already seceded Croatia.

Kraina wouldnt be created if Croatia didnt secede. If you have right - others have right too.

Geschrieben von Croat, 02.09.2015 at 14:48

After Serbian ultra-nationalist rebels and terrorists killed first Croatian victims, the war was inevitable.


Same as Ukraine War. Croatia sent bus full of soldiers to enter Kraina, and they fired back. Same as Ukrainian Army wants to enter Donbass and they are defending.

You cant enter on seceded territory, just as you dont want others to enter your newly created state. As i said above, others have right too, not only you.
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02.09.2015 - 15:37
Omfg you psychopats stop posting same fucking videos and same fucking bullshit over and over again!!!
No one gives a shit about two banana republics in retarded balkans

Tito... see you in 2041. ...
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