Why is competitive dying???

Because u cant play competitive without general. Most players are students they can hardly pay for it and i dont think they will spend it that much for aw(maybe put an option to only buy general) . Competitive players dont train new people instead they argue with them like wd and you need to play thousands of games to get upgrades. So people of course will go to play scenarios or rp where they dont need a general or upgrade

Geschrieben von BLACKMETAL3199, 12.05.2019 at 11:02

Because u cant play competitive without general. Most players are students they can hardly pay for it and i dont think they will spend it that much for aw(maybe put an option to only buy general) . Competitive players dont train new people instead they argue with them like wd and you need to play thousands of games to get upgrades. So people of course will go to play scenarios or rp where they dont need a general or upgrade

Or maybe you nubs that got trained by others do your part and train atleast one more...Remember you didnt have premium but i somehow fund it for you.Do the same.

Geschrieben von JUGERS2, 12.05.2019 at 11:04

Geschrieben von BLACKMETAL3199, 12.05.2019 at 11:02

Because u cant play competitive without general. Most players are students they can hardly pay for it and i dont think they will spend it that much for aw(maybe put an option to only buy general) . Competitive players dont train new people instead they argue with them like wd and you need to play thousands of games to get upgrades. So people of course will go to play scenarios or rp where they dont need a general or upgrade

Or maybe you nubs that got trained by others do your part and train atleast one more...Remember you didnt have premium but i somehow fund it for you.Do the same.

I tell them to beg sascha for premium bro...

I agree competative advantages shouldnt be locked behind a pay wall.

Agreed with Gen.

I talked to a few players about this already and got mixed results, but to help get new players into comp more easily would turn - by - turn guides help as a resource? Pic related my take on NC Sweden

Generals should've never been premium in the first place.

Make an EU+ scenario that gives you a general turn 1, so non-premium players can have one.
The general upgrades can then be bought with the 3-day premium which you get after 30days inactivity.
This is a workaround, but I do agree that the general unit should be freely available for everyone.

Geschrieben von Chess, 12.05.2019 at 13:24

I do agree that the general unit should be freely available for everyone.

Geschrieben von Chess, 12.05.2019 at 13:24

Make an EU+ scenario that gives you a general turn 1, so non-premium players can have one.
The general upgrades can then be bought with the 3-day premium which you get after 30days inactivity.
This is a workaround, but I do agree that the general unit should be freely available for everyone.

Do you keep the upgrades after the three days run out?

Geschrieben von Chess, 12.05.2019 at 13:24

Make an EU+ scenario that gives you a general turn 1, so non-premium players can have one.
The general upgrades can then be bought with the 3-day premium which you get after 30days inactivity.
This is a workaround, but I do agree that the general unit should be freely available for everyone.

The upgrades don't work once you lose the premium, as far as I know.

Geschrieben von Guest, 12.05.2019 at 16:58

It is hard to say, on one hand this game cannot be advertised as "not pay to win" if it includes the general as a perk, as that was a dishonest statement from the previous ownership of the game- but at the same time, the pay to win element may be necessary, as many people only buy Premium for the general, and that might be the most likely reason someone would.

There are alternatives however, if the general is restored to non-premium players. For instance, SP discounts for Premium players could discount 15% or even 20% of the cost of upgrades, or name changes could cost Protocoins (meaning more people would buy PC) as opposed to costing SP. Perhaps even the customization of your generic units by changing the images and names could be bought by Protocoins too? Many would likely buy that feature, I'm sure.

Premium already grants you an SP discount on upgrades

Geschrieben von Guest, 12.05.2019 at 18:10

Geschrieben von Black Vortex, 12.05.2019 at 18:05

Geschrieben von Guest, 12.05.2019 at 16:58

It is hard to say, on one hand this game cannot be advertised as "not pay to win" if it includes the general as a perk, as that was a dishonest statement from the previous ownership of the game- but at the same time, the pay to win element may be necessary, as many people only buy Premium for the general, and that might be the most likely reason someone would.

There are alternatives however, if the general is restored to non-premium players. For instance, SP discounts for Premium players could discount 15% or even 20% of the cost of upgrades, or name changes could cost Protocoins (meaning more people would buy PC) as opposed to costing SP. Perhaps even the customization of your generic units by changing the images and names could be bought by Protocoins too? Many would likely buy that feature, I'm sure.

Premium already grants you an SP discount on upgrades

I know, but I right now it's 10%- i was just talking about making it more to compensate for the fact that the general is free for all. This would also make getting all upgrades easier and help put players on an even playing field.

Changing it to 15% won't really do much. Lucky infantry for example is 18900 with premium. with another 5% it'll take off about 1k SP making it over 17900. It's still really costly and a lot of these upgrades you won't get until at least rank 7, unless you don't buy any other upgrades prior
In my opinion to make upgrades easier we should increase the SP boost option's durations. Cause it's really hard to get a lot of games in daily to fully utilize the SP boost. Add a few more days onto the SP boost and that'll make it more worth it.
Edit: I also believe give 1 free SP boost to a new account to use

It's not dying but I'd support some way for non premium players to have the general. Maybe make it worth a lot of SP or something. That or they can just buy premium...

Cant afford premium? Save up, dont buy fucking csgo skins or mcdonald big mac.

Geschrieben von Chess, 12.05.2019 at 13:24

Make an EU+ scenario that gives you a general turn 1, so non-premium players can have one.
The general upgrades can then be bought with the 3-day premium which you get after 30days inactivity.
This is a workaround, but I do agree that the general unit should be freely available for everyone.

Nice thinking.

For rest : General must stay premium unit. Its main reasson to spent money here.

Geschrieben von Mauzer Panteri, 13.05.2019 at 02:42

Geschrieben von Chess, 12.05.2019 at 13:24

Make an EU+ scenario that gives you a general turn 1, so non-premium players can have one.
The general upgrades can then be bought with the 3-day premium which you get after 30days inactivity.
This is a workaround, but I do agree that the general unit should be freely available for everyone.

Nice thinking.

For rest : General must stay premium unit. Its main reasson to spent money here.

i agree , gen is a op benefit from premium which brings in cash..... Maybe add the option to buy lifetime general pack which cost as much as like a year of premium or somthing

Geschrieben von sirivann, 13.05.2019 at 16:41

Geschrieben von Mauzer Panteri, 13.05.2019 at 02:42

Geschrieben von Chess, 12.05.2019 at 13:24

Make an EU+ scenario that gives you a general turn 1, so non-premium players can have one.
The general upgrades can then be bought with the 3-day premium which you get after 30days inactivity.
This is a workaround, but I do agree that the general unit should be freely available for everyone.

Nice thinking.

For rest : General must stay premium unit. Its main reasson to spent money here.

i agree , gen is a op benefit from premium which brings in cash..... Maybe add the option to buy lifetime general pack which cost as much as like a year of premium or somthing

Lifetime is for Old players

People saying " this game shouldn't be a pay to win game " - but when people propose to extend the general benefit to all, " no, premium must keep his general ".

Geschrieben von Kaska, 14.05.2019 at 05:12

People saying " this game shouldn't be a pay to win game " - but when people propose to extend the general benefit to all, " no, premium must keep his general ".

I am confuse

Geschrieben von Guest, 14.05.2019 at 07:51

Geschrieben von Kaska, 14.05.2019 at 05:12

People saying " this game shouldn't be a pay to win game " - but when people propose to extend the general benefit to all, " no, premium must keep his general ".

I am confuse

I am Confucius...

What you should do, if you don't like Gen being only premium, is get a prem friend to create a map clone of EU+ and add the general unit. Play on that. Problem solved.

Every nonprem can buy Exclusive weapons, or you all forgot about that feature?

Nobody wants to play bland EU+, there is your answer.

Cuz no one care, and why would anyone care...

Geschrieben von Brsjak, 03.06.2019 at 15:06

Nobody wants to play bland EU+, there is your answer.

Scenario players, doesnt want to play eu+ cuz they there got destroyed by normal r8s, in 5 turnss.

This is Sahara now, nothing to stimulate players to play this game.

Geschrieben von Mauzer Panteri, 03.06.2019 at 16:43

Cuz no one care, and why would anyone care...

Geschrieben von Brsjak, 03.06.2019 at 15:06

Nobody wants to play bland EU+, there is your answer.

Scenario players, doesnt want to play eu+ cuz they there got destroyed by normal r8s, in 5 turnss.

This is Sahara now, nothing to stimulate players to play this game.

W R O N G
Scenario players do not want to play EU+ because of the reason i said, it is bland and boring, why would someone play EU+ when they have Rise of Rome, Napoleon RoTK (used to having it [Censored by AtWar Police™] dave needs to fix it). the competitive scene is dying because people do not want to play its boring gameplay, scenario community is dying because people that had the ability to make good maps left the game due to dave.

Geschrieben von Brsjak, 04.06.2019 at 17:22

Geschrieben von Mauzer Panteri, 03.06.2019 at 16:43

Cuz no one care, and why would anyone care...

Geschrieben von Brsjak, 03.06.2019 at 15:06

Nobody wants to play bland EU+, there is your answer.

Scenario players, doesnt want to play eu+ cuz they there got destroyed by normal r8s, in 5 turnss.

This is Sahara now, nothing to stimulate players to play this game.

W R O N G
Scenario players do not want to play EU+ because of the reason i said, it is bland and boring, why would someone play EU+ when they have Rise of Rome, Napoleon RoTK (used to having it [Censored by AtWar Police™] dave needs to fix it). the competitive scene is dying because people do not want to play its boring gameplay, scenario community is dying because people that had the ability to make good maps left the game due to dave.

Brainlet

Geschrieben von Garde, 04.06.2019 at 18:08

Geschrieben von Brsjak, 04.06.2019 at 17:22

Geschrieben von Mauzer Panteri, 03.06.2019 at 16:43

Cuz no one care, and why would anyone care...

Geschrieben von Brsjak, 03.06.2019 at 15:06

Nobody wants to play bland EU+, there is your answer.

Scenario players, doesnt want to play eu+ cuz they there got destroyed by normal r8s, in 5 turnss.

This is Sahara now, nothing to stimulate players to play this game.

W R O N G
Scenario players do not want to play EU+ because of the reason i said, it is bland and boring, why would someone play EU+ when they have Rise of Rome, Napoleon RoTK (used to having it [Censored by AtWar Police™] dave needs to fix it). the competitive scene is dying because people do not want to play its boring gameplay, scenario community is dying because people that had the ability to make good maps left the game due to dave.

Brainlet

elaborate?

Geschrieben von Garde, 04.06.2019 at 18:08

Geschrieben von Brsjak, 04.06.2019 at 17:22

Geschrieben von Mauzer Panteri, 03.06.2019 at 16:43

Cuz no one care, and why would anyone care...

Geschrieben von Brsjak, 03.06.2019 at 15:06

Nobody wants to play bland EU+, there is your answer.

Scenario players, doesnt want to play eu+ cuz they there got destroyed by normal r8s, in 5 turnss.

This is Sahara now, nothing to stimulate players to play this game.

W R O N G
Scenario players do not want to play EU+ because of the reason i said, it is bland and boring, why would someone play EU+ when they have Rise of Rome, Napoleon RoTK (used to having it [Censored by AtWar Police™] dave needs to fix it). the competitive scene is dying because people do not want to play its boring gameplay, scenario community is dying because people that had the ability to make good maps left the game due to dave.

Brainlet

Hes right

Geschrieben von Brsjak, 04.06.2019 at 17:22

Geschrieben von Mauzer Panteri, 03.06.2019 at 16:43

Cuz no one care, and why would anyone care...

Geschrieben von Brsjak, 03.06.2019 at 15:06

Nobody wants to play bland EU+, there is your answer.

Scenario players, doesnt want to play eu+ cuz they there got destroyed by normal r8s, in 5 turnss.

This is Sahara now, nothing to stimulate players to play this game.

W R O N G
Scenario players do not want to play EU+ because of the reason i said, it is bland and boring, why would someone play EU+ when they have Rise of Rome, Napoleon RoTK (used to having it [Censored by AtWar Police™] dave needs to fix it). the competitive scene is dying because people do not want to play its boring gameplay, scenario community is dying because people that had the ability to make good maps left the game due to dave.

Actual brainlet, I have to agree with garde on this