Diversity

I support zexi on this, surely clan wars were not made simply for the same map with the same 3v3 format. I appreciate 3v3 eu+ is the best competitive map in terms of the balance, game time etc. With a few exceptions most 3v3 eu+ players when out of their comfort zone fail hard on games like africa 3k duels.

More clan war options I would like to see more often with the possible settings as I see viable:
-- 3v3 4v4 5v5 3/5k Africa
-- 3v3 4v4 5v5 5k/10k Asia
-- 3v3 4v4 5v5 3k/5k/10k EU Asia
-- 3v3 5k Oceania
-- 3v3 3k/5k Latin America
-- 4v4 5k/10k America

Don't forget about Dreamworld, Destoria and Ancient too!

Geschrieben von The Bastard, 20.05.2015 at 20:47

I support zexi on this, surely clan wars were not made simply for the same map with the same 3v3 format. I appreciate 3v3 eu+ is the best competitive map in terms of the balance, game time etc. With a few exceptions most 3v3 eu+ players when out of their comfort zone fail hard on games like africa 3k duels.

More clan war options I would like to see more often with the possible settings as I see viable:
-- 3v3 4v4 5v5 3/5k Africa
-- 3v3 4v4 5v5 5k/10k Asia
-- 3v3 4v4 5v5 3k/5k/10k EU Asia
-- 3v3 5k Oceania
-- 3v3 3k/5k Latin America
-- 4v4 5k/10k America

Don't forget about Dreamworld, Destoria and Ancient too!

only issue with diffrent gametypes is some clans will have trained on said maps, giving them an edge...

In general, 1 standard map makes training easier, not saying other maps dont work, just standard map makes it more , for lack of better word, convinient

Geschrieben von Nations, 20.05.2015 at 09:33

Eu 10k extra doesnt require any real skill,its just memorization and luck.

Don't forget the tons of premium upgrades u must have to be pro in 3v3 classic CW..

Geschrieben von I_Hate_You_All, 20.05.2015 at 22:36

Don't forget the tons of premium upgrades u must have to be pro in 3v3 classic CW..

you don't need prem to be good with normal 3v3 danjiel is a good example of this

Generally yes, u'll need all premium up's to made the general stack Op and stuff. It could be very nice if some of the pro guys here play a cw with no ups and strats.

I think the problem is people are afraid....people use 2 rank differences, country choice as a factor if they actually want to play, e.g. singularity or enigma wont cw over a amount..so why would they even comprehend a map change?

Geschrieben von Khal.eesi, 20.05.2015 at 18:54

Geschrieben von RaulPB, 20.05.2015 at 18:51

Geschrieben von Khal.eesi, 20.05.2015 at 18:49

ρε γιαννακη νουμπακο κανε μας τη χαρη αγορακι μου... εσυ τι παιζεις δηλαδη Αρ πι??! χαχα. λοιπον πανε παιξε γιουροπ που ειναι για προς και ασε τις νουμπιες και τα κλαματα

Google Translator OP:

"eh GIANNAKI noumpako makes our thanks my boy ... You what plays ie No. pi ??! haha. Well go BET Europa which is about to be and let the Nuba and tears"

In other words, learn to speak greek please. Don't make it harder than it already is for the translator.

χαχαχααχα

ok ill give you some clues

νουμπ = noob
Αρ πι = RP
παιξε = play
προς = pros
κλαματα = crie

Its like trying to talk to a wall,im not going to try make a serious reply callories that will be required for my fingers to write it,are not worth to be spent,also "καλές μπουυρδολογίες" that goes for my greek pal.

Geschrieben von Usernames, 21.05.2015 at 01:18

I think the problem is people are afraid....people use 2 rank differences, country choice as a factor if they actually want to play, e.g. singularity or enigma wont cw over a amount..so why would they even comprehend a map change?

1. Singularity and I believe enigma as well has clan warred with ridiculous rank disadvantages in the past
2. having same ranks online at the time then not using them in favor of a higher and calling another clan scared is kind of hypocritical

conclusion, take a look at yourself before bad mouthing another clan

Geschrieben von clovis1122, 20.05.2015 at 19:20

Geschrieben von Zone, 20.05.2015 at 10:03

Geschrieben von Nations, 20.05.2015 at 09:33

Eu 10k extra doesnt require any real skill,its just memorization and luck.

That's a sentence of someone that doesn't what he's saying...

Eu 10k is the ground that requires the most skills.

ok, Goblin, b0nker, where are you guys? Plz give me a big :facepalm: meme on this comment..........

Plz realize the players that are against this are exactly pure Eu+ players:

"*Random BS*" - khal.eesi. >>>> Lose on most of the zones of the default map. Have a long time declining my duels
"Europe is diverse and interesting" - Laochra >>>> Decline to duel me anywhere else than Europe after my Mozambique beats his Cameroon.
"Eu requires skills" - Zone >>>> ftw have never see zone playing an scenario game.

Geschrieben von Htin, 20.05.2015 at 12:03

oceania to small a rusher might win easily,

Wrong. Oceania(And by Oceania I mean SE Asia & Oceania) is playable and totally balanced if you know what to pick. But yeah this is something you only learn by actually playing the map.

Geschrieben von Htin, 20.05.2015 at 12:03

world map takes too long.

Change turn duration to 25?

Geschrieben von Htin, 20.05.2015 at 12:03

Ancient too unbalance. macedonia will give u a huge edge. macedonia syria carthage and egpyt only playable

Play without Macedonia?

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For the record: Any EU player Duel anywhere in the default map other than Europe?


True "Anyone Anywhere" players like me, fer, blautista, syrian, knows 1000x more about this than anyone else (srry khal but u suddenly stopped playing). The argument about skills and interesting is the most lie/legend of all the times.

However the argument about population (acq, tunder) is still true...

Hmm I never played scenarios ? Try just to remember what i was playing before r10..

Geschrieben von dinoscout, 20.05.2015 at 21:04

for lack of better word, convinient

True teamwork and skill comes from being able to adapt to any given situation, some more variety would be great.

Geschrieben von dinoscout, 20.05.2015 at 21:04

only issue with diffrent gametypes is some clans will have trained on said maps, giving them an edge...

In general, 1 standard map makes training easier, not saying other maps dont work, just standard map makes it more , for lack of better word, convinient

When you're a true pro, you barely need no training. Just take a quick look at the map to see which can be good picking options, take a look at the incomes and the average distance between cities, pay attention to the ports and possible cities with infantry instead of militia, tell your opponent that you're a noob, let him be overconfident and surprise him with some wierd combination you just improvised.

Geschrieben von clovis1122, 19.05.2015 at 08:04

Also remember to pray zizou, isn't that right Clovis?

Finally just laugh as he rages and go have some pleasant sleep.

Geschrieben von RaulPB, 21.05.2015 at 09:51

Geschrieben von dinoscout, 20.05.2015 at 21:04

only issue with diffrent gametypes is some clans will have trained on said maps, giving them an edge...

In general, 1 standard map makes training easier, not saying other maps dont work, just standard map makes it more , for lack of better word, convinient

When you're a true pro, you barely need no training. Just take a quick look at the map to see which can be good picking options, take a look at the incomes and the average distance between cities, pay attention to the ports and possible cities with infantry instead of militia, tell your opponent that you're a noob, let him be overconfident and surprise him with some wierd combination you just improvised.

Nice lie/legend, there are some fragment of that that simply won't happen. Ex: Combining "True pro" and "Enemy overconfident". As far as I know nobody would get overconfident against any pro player, unless they doesn't know him.

As for the income-bla stuff, it requires time. You can greatly improve at that map (omg this is from my guide!) but that doesn't mean you will get to play it efficient, or even decent.

Geschrieben von RaulPB, 21.05.2015 at 09:51

Geschrieben von clovis1122, 19.05.2015 at 08:04

Also remember to pray zizou, isn't that right Clovis?

Finally just laugh as he rages and go have some pleasant sleep.

Remember 1 inf and one sea trans winning against 4 infantries? I do!

Though Tazania , Mozambique or even DR congo would had been better choice than Ivory. You just got zizou luck man...

Geschrieben von clovis1122, 21.05.2015 at 10:22

Nice lie/legend, there are some fragment of that that simply won't happen. Ex: Combining "True pro" and "Enemy overconfident". As far as I know nobody would get overconfident against any pro player, unless they doesn't know him.

As for the income-bla stuff, it requires time. You can greatly reduce the time (omg this is from my guide!) but that doesn't mean you will get to play it efficient, or even decent.

Oh come on, just keep saying you don't know what you're doing and the opponent will believe it XDD I have proves, it actually works

Well, I already had a very little idea about the income, I just had to find a port that could match yours, look a bit at the income around the area and a crazy enough plan (crazy enough strat as well ). Wouldn't you say it was a decent game?

Geschrieben von clovis1122, 19.05.2015 at 08:04

Remember 1 inf and one sea trans winning against 4 infantries? I do!

Though Tazania , Mozambique or even DR congo would had been better choice than Ivory. You just got zizou luck man...

You were Imp right? And didn't I actually have TS + 1 inf + 2 mil? Besides, NC transport is OP.

I don't think so. That port is very nice, with a nice area to expand with even more ports. I proved it being a good spot

Geschrieben von RaulPB, 21.05.2015 at 10:39

ok we will have to agree to disagree... (don't want to lead this to off-topic).

However this is still a fact:

Geschrieben von The Bastard, 20.05.2015 at 20:47

With a few exceptions most 3v3 eu+ players when out of their comfort zone fail hard on games like africa 3k duels.

I am curious as to the r7s and 8s etc in this thread calling for more diversity when they are yet to master basic attrition gameplay from say a standard pd uk vs germany battle. Such skills are apllicable to almost every strat on the majority of maps. Then there are the higher ranks but i wont go there....

i see mention of africa 3k... africa is a very different and more difficult environment to handle, especially for a < r8 without upgrades like cheaper trans and general cost which can make a big difference. The phrase trying to run before youve learned to walk comes to mind.

Geschrieben von Permamuted, 21.05.2015 at 13:04

Then there are the higher ranks but i wont go there....

Did we say something wrong?

Geschrieben von The Bastard, 20.05.2015 at 20:47

I support zexi on this, surely clan wars were not made simply for the same map with the same 3v3 format. I appreciate 3v3 eu+ is the best competitive map in terms of the balance, game time etc. With a few exceptions most 3v3 eu+ players when out of their comfort zone fail hard on games like africa 3k duels.

More clan war options I would like to see more often with the possible settings as I see viable:
-- 3v3 4v4 5v5 3/5k Africa
-- 3v3 4v4 5v5 5k/10k Asia
-- 3v3 4v4 5v5 3k/5k/10k EU Asia
-- 3v3 5k Oceania
-- 3v3 3k/5k Latin America
-- 4v4 5k/10k America

Don't forget about Dreamworld, Destoria and Ancient too!

Ability to make random settings please!!!

Geschrieben von Permamuted, 21.05.2015 at 13:04

I am curious as to the r7s and 8s etc in this thread calling for more diversity when they are yet to master basic attrition gameplay from say a standard pd uk vs germany battle. Such skills are apllicable to almost every strat on the majority of maps. Then there are the higher ranks but i wont go there....

i see mention of africa 3k... africa is a very different and more difficult environment to handle, especially for a < r8 without upgrades like cheaper trans and general cost which can make a big difference. The phrase trying to run before youve learned to walk comes to mind.

Well, everything's unique
I agree, there are things to be learned when you play uk vs germany, but there are also things to be learned with turk vs ukr, austria vs serbia, ireland vs belgium, belarus vs poland, ivory vs mozambique, you can learn tons from every match and apply it to every game. Is there anything special about uk vs germany that I don't really get? You're right that there are many, many things you can learn from watching specific matches that you can apply with other/all strategies/countries.

Geschrieben von dinoscout, 20.05.2015 at 21:04

only issue with diffrent gametypes is some clans will have trained on said maps, giving them an edge...

In general, 1 standard map makes training easier, not saying other maps dont work, just standard map makes it more , for lack of better word, convinient

You're right in every way. A standardized map makes training easier, like the curriculum in schools. This is absolutely true.
But,

Geschrieben von The Bastard, 21.05.2015 at 09:44

True teamwork and skill comes from being able to adapt to any given situation, some more variety would be great.

What you're talking about is the same, but also different. Training in a standardized map will give you skill in THAT MAP. Sure, you'll gain some skill if you keep learning the map, and becoming more experienced at it. But hey, you can do 3v3's all day, but what'll you do when thrown in a "Colonial Supremacy" or "The War To End All Wars [WW1]", or even a rp? WIll you excel the same way you do in 3v3's? Sure, you'll know the basics, but what's to stop you from being ganged up on in rp? Rp does take skill...you just need to spam chems and use them on everyone

Geschrieben von Guest, 21.05.2015 at 16:52

but what's to stop you from being ganged up on in rp? Rp does take skill...you just need to spam chems and use them on everyone

Worst example you could possibly come up with. Really, the worst one. The skills you learn in Eu can be applied to RP, which will make you win fights. If you're talking about spaming chats filled with nonsense to make everyone ally you so you don't have any problem, then that is not game skill. Just boredom and words. I've played RP maps and it's no challenge at all, boring as hell actually.

Geschrieben von RaulPB, 21.05.2015 at 18:15

Geschrieben von Guest, 21.05.2015 at 16:52

but what's to stop you from being ganged up on in rp? Rp does take skill...you just need to spam chems and use them on everyone

Worst example you could possibly come up with. Really, the worst one. The skills you learn in Eu can be applied to RP, which will make you win fights. If you're talking about spaming chats filled with nonsense to make everyone ally you so you don't have any problem, then that is not game skill. Just boredom and words. I've played RP maps and it's no challenge at all, boring as hell actually.

Lol I was jk there Ik that all you do is talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk and talk for like, 2 hours

Geschrieben von RaulPB, 21.05.2015 at 18:15

The skills you learn in Eu can be applied to RP, which will make you win fights.

"Let me pick the country with most income instead of the country with the best units (that usually have an obvious name like "Special ops" or "Nuke Silo") !!!!"

- Eu+ players.

Geschrieben von clovis1122, 20.05.2015 at 19:20

For the record: Any EU player Duel anywhere in the default map other than Europe?

I was not joking plz guys ;_;

Geschrieben von clovis1122, 21.05.2015 at 18:44

"Let me pick the country with most income instead of the country with the best units (that usually have an obvious name like "Special ops" or "Nuke Silo") !!!!"

- Eu+ players.

I'll state an obvious fact: it really doesnt matter which place you pick to start as long as you have spare money to expand since there can be no wars until turn 4. You'll eventually take those ops and silos within your expansion before those 4 turns are over....

Geschrieben von clovis1122, 21.05.2015 at 18:59

For the record: Any EU player Duel anywhere in the default map other than Europe? I was not joking plz guys ;_;

I already did, didn't you like the result?

Geschrieben von clovis1122, 21.05.2015 at 19:01

No, cause they usually have low income. And is a common rule of eu+ player to expand to rich countries.

According to RP rules, if an ops center is inside your land, opponents cannot take it, thus no hurries needed.

Geschrieben von Guest, 21.05.2015 at 16:52

Well, everything's unique
I agree, there are things to be learned when you play uk vs germany, but there are also things to be learned with turk vs ukr, austria vs serbia, ireland vs belgium, belarus vs poland, ivory vs mozambique, you can learn tons from every match and apply it to every game. Is there anything special about uk vs germany that I don't really get? You're right that there are many, many things you can learn from watching specific matches that you can apply with other/all strategies/countries.

i mentioned uk vs germany as a common example, by all means play other countries on other settings, europe is great for 3k 5k 10k 15k 2 initials, 5 and 10k 2 intiials etc. That will allow you to learn all the different strats in the niches where they are strong.

Want to know why europe is at current the best competitive map we have and why it is so overplayed?

Look at the layout, youve enough water for skillful trans maneuvers but not too much so that nc is overpowered and strats like gw(expensive trans) are almost useless. You've land bridges, a wide mix of incomes, city densities and rein concentrations. Youve a niche for every strat across all the settings.

you have:

high income high rein countries(germ/uk/france/spain/italy)
medium/low income high rein countries(turk/ukraine)
high income low rein countries(russia central)
medium income low rein countries(belg/nether/switz/scandi)
low income low rein countries(serbia/belg/armenia etc)
medium income low rein countries(austria/hungary/romania etc)
medium income medium reins(greece)

by high income i mean >500, medium 150-500, low <150. But you get the idea. There is currently no other map like it out there that is as small but still as diverse. The only criticism id have for europe+ particularly 10k is that it is very pd orientated. I suspect to get players to venture away from europe youd need a map with a similar level of diversity but offering different gameplay. I think a map more spain/ukraine type countries would be a solution, high reins high starting funds. You would see strats like mos and sm more.

Geschrieben von clovis1122, 21.05.2015 at 18:59

"Let me pick the country with most income instead of the country with the best units (that usually have an obvious name like "Special ops" or "Nuke Silo") !!!!"

- Eu+ players.

Oh? tell us more about your extensive experience with default map to RP crossovers.

The funny thing is in these threads, 99% of the skills and knowlege youve acquired is from playing on the default map(specifically europe+) and against those who also play on it. Look at your threads, all default map gameplay knowlege. But yet here you are acting as if default map players are a load of boring noobs.

Geschrieben von clovis1122, 21.05.2015 at 18:59

default map players are a load of boring noobs.

agree

Geschrieben von Permamuted, 22.05.2015 at 12:45

The funny thing is in these threads, 99% of the skills and knowlege youve acquired is from playing on the default map(specifically europe+) and against those who also play on it. Look at your threads, all default map gameplay knowlege. But yet here you are acting as if default map players are a load of boring noobs.

HEY HEY HEY, SLOW DOWN THERE.

Default map yes, eu/eu+? no.

I used to be a GW player till rank 7, all I knew in europe was 5k games (curious, I used to think RA poland was unbeatable, and it really is... without extra). Rest of my knowledge was all in Asia, U.S and Africa. Even now, the secret of my IMP Turkey still relies on those valuable lesson I've learned from Africa games. Basically, you can say I am just applying my knowledge of other continents to Europe.

Can you play Turkey 10k like if you were on an African 3k game? Yes.
Can you play Africa 3k like if you were on Turkey 10k? No.

Explanation? Requires a lot of though. In Africa, the lack of income makes the units more valuable. That's why you need to be A LOT more reinf/cost efficient. There comes a time, however, when the game goes to Late-gaming and you and your enemy control a vast land. As GW, you would spam marines. As IMP, if you wanna compensate the weakness of your infantries (and avoid the whoever-attack-first-lose type of fight) you must buy tanks. Same for maximize your first turn expansion, you must use tanks. Not the situation of Turkey where you have 2.7k starting funds and you earn a 1k economy pretty fast. IMO, Turkey is just like Africa on Lategaming, but against a different opponent than another African player. Regardless, the strategy of outnumber your opponent in Africa works exactly the same in Turkey vs Ukraine.

If you incline yourself to be more reinforcement-efficient, the lack of money will cause a boomerang effect that will reduce your troops as the game goes to lategame. If you incline to be more cost-efficient, this effect happens from the start, and keep happening but not in the same way it does with the first case. The best way is to be both: Reinf-Cost efficient. This concept is explained on my General guide to the game: Intermediate.



By the way, I'll like to ask you for a niche for MoS and HW on Europe? Cause you just say in other discussion that their niche were continental battles.

If I am wrong then "Boost MoS and HW, cause they are weak on europe".

Geschrieben von Khal.eesi, 22.05.2015 at 13:28

Geschrieben von clovis1122, 21.05.2015 at 18:59

default map Europeans players are a load of boring noobs.

agree

Agreed

Get better PC and duel me on Africa plz!!! I actually think that Tazania is better than Mozambique against Cameroon.

The best "Optional" experience that I've learned from all those Whole World games is, without doubt, to let my enemies kill each others and take advantage of that. I was U.S rank 6, one rank 7 was fighting a rank 9 in Eu vs Asia. I killed both. Was epic.

This is not something you can learn properly in Europe, specially when is team game. The effect is better seen and most effective IMO when it does decide the game (contiental fights with few players), not when it decides who survives another turn (Small map with lot of players).

Geschrieben von clovis1122, 22.05.2015 at 21:47

HEY HEY HEY, SLOW DOWN THERE.

Default map yes, eu/eu+? no.

I used to be a GW player till rank 7, all I knew in europe was 5k games (curious, I used to think RA poland was unbeatable, and it really is... without extra). Rest of my knowledge was all in Asia, U.S and Africa. Even now, the secret of my IMP Turkey still relies on those valuable lesson I've learned from Africa games. Basically, you can say I am just applying my knowledge of other continents to Europe.

Can you play Turkey 10k like if you were on an African 3k game? Yes.
Can you play Africa 3k like if you were on Turkey 10k? No.

Explanation? Requires a lot of though. In Africa, the lack of income makes the units more valuable. That's why you need to be A LOT more reinf/cost efficient. There comes a time, however, when the game goes to Late-gaming and you and your enemy control a vast land. As GW, you would spam marines. As IMP, if you wanna compensate the weakness of your infantries (and avoid the whoever-attack-first-lose type of fight) you must buy tanks. Same for maximize your first turn expansion, you must use tanks. Not the situation of Turkey where you have 2.7k starting funds and you earn a 1k economy pretty fast. IMO, Turkey is just like Africa on Lategaming, but against a different opponent than another African player. Regardless, the strategy of outnumber your opponent in Africa works exactly the same in Turkey vs Ukraine.

If you incline yourself to be more reinforcement-efficient, the lack of money will cause a boomerang effect that will reduce your troops as the game goes to lategame. If you incline to be more cost-efficient, this effect happens from the start, and keep happening but not in the same way it does with the first case. The best way is to be both: Reinf-Cost efficient. This concept is explained on my General guide to the game: Intermediate.



By the way, I'll like to ask you for a niche for MoS and HW on Europe? Cause you just say in other discussion that their niche were continental battles.

If I am wrong then "Boost MoS and HW, cause they are weak on europe".

You can learn a lot through 5k, it is where i learned ds gw if that way. Imp on Africa is completely different to imp turk. Considering the fact that in the 2 years ive played aw ive hardly ever seen you play asia or america and see you play europe everyday makes me call bs on this. But i doubt anything i say will divert you from your contrarian agenda.

Geschrieben von clovis1122, 22.05.2015 at 21:47

By the way, I'll like to ask you for a niche for MoS and HW on Europe? Cause you just say in other discussion that their niche were continental battles.

If I am wrong then "Boost MoS and HW, cause they are weak on europe".

Why did i waste my time responding to this guy...

Geschrieben von clovis1122, 22.05.2015 at 21:47

Geschrieben von Permamuted, 22.05.2015 at 12:45

The funny thing is in these threads, 99% of the skills and knowlege youve acquired is from playing on the default map(specifically europe+) and against those who also play on it. Look at your threads, all default map gameplay knowlege. But yet here you are acting as if default map players are a load of boring noobs.

HEY HEY HEY, SLOW DOWN THERE.

Default map yes, eu/eu+? no.

I used to be a GW player till rank 7, all I knew in europe was 5k games (curious, I used to think RA poland was unbeatable, and it really is... without extra). Rest of my knowledge was all in Asia, U.S and Africa. Even now, the secret of my IMP Turkey still relies on those valuable lesson I've learned from Africa games. Basically, you can say I am just applying my knowledge of other continents to Europe.

Can you play Turkey 10k like if you were on an African 3k game? Yes.
Can you play Africa 3k like if you were on Turkey 10k? No.

Explanation? Requires a lot of though. In Africa, the lack of income makes the units more valuable. That's why you need to be A LOT more reinf/cost efficient. There comes a time, however, when the game goes to Late-gaming and you and your enemy control a vast land. As GW, you would spam marines. As IMP, if you wanna compensate the weakness of your infantries (and avoid the whoever-attack-first-lose type of fight) you must buy tanks. Same for maximize your first turn expansion, you must use tanks. Not the situation of Turkey where you have 2.7k starting funds and you earn a 1k economy pretty fast. IMO, Turkey is just like Africa on Lategaming, but against a different opponent than another African player. Regardless, the strategy of outnumber your opponent in Africa works exactly the same in Turkey vs Ukraine.

If you incline yourself to be more reinforcement-efficient, the lack of money will cause a boomerang effect that will reduce your troops as the game goes to lategame. If you incline to be more cost-efficient, this effect happens from the start, and keep happening but not in the same way it does with the first case. The best way is to be both: Reinf-Cost efficient. This concept is explained on my General guide to the game: Intermediate.



By the way, I'll like to ask you for a niche for MoS and HW on Europe? Cause you just say in other discussion that their niche were continental battles.

If I am wrong then "Boost MoS and HW, cause they are weak on europe".

Geschrieben von Khal.eesi, 22.05.2015 at 13:28

Geschrieben von clovis1122, 21.05.2015 at 18:59

default map Europeans players are a load of boring noobs.

agree

Agreed

Get better PC and duel me on Africa plz!!! I actually think that Tazania is better than Mozambique against Cameroon.

Your turkey not good lol

Geschrieben von Permamuted, 23.05.2015 at 02:38

Considering the fact that in the 2 years ive played aw ive hardly ever seen you play asia or america and see you play europe everyday makes me call bs on this.

I have one more year than you and when I meet you I was already rank 9, but okay Potatoes.

Geschrieben von Zone, 23.05.2015 at 03:26

Your turkey not good lol

Do you remember when you failed rush on Ankara and I capped you turn 4? That was some months ago... I did the same to Laochra, just that I also got his Kiev walled :p