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==Turn 11: Phase 2 has begun==
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Consul Vote
1) Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus ) & Marco Flavius (Aqollo)
Censor Vote
1)Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)
Praetor Vote
2)Quintus Sertorius (Aetius)
Who will command the Third Macedonian War?
1) Galerius Nipius Africanus ( Death1816) [Populares]
Who will command the Spanish Revolt?
2) Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) [Populares]
Leving Forces
2)Nay
Disbanding Forces
1)Legio IV Mortis, Legio V Invicta, Legio VI Ignis to be disbanded (30 talents to pay for their retirement)
Force Deployments
1)Legio II,Legio IX, Legio VII, and 12 Legions and 5 fleets to the 3rd Macedonian War (+zephs legions if not disbanded)
Legio XV, Legio XIV and 3 legions and 2 fleets to Spanish Revolt
Garrison Legions
1) Legio I, Legio III to garrison Nearer Spain
Sertorian Land Bill Tier I (-20 talents, -1 unrest)
1) Aye
Antonine Land Bill Tier III (-10 upkeep, -3unrest)
2) Nay (all who vote nay, and if nay wins, will lose - 2 popularity )
Tax Farmer 5 (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) +14 votes, backed by Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)
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Consul Vote
1) Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus ) & Marco Flavius (Aqollo)
Censor Vote
1)Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)
Praetor Vote
2)Quintus Sertorius (Aetius)
Who will command the Third Macedonian War?
1) Galerius Nipius Africanus ( Death1816) [Populares]
Who will command the Spanish Revolt?
2) Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) [Populares]
Leving Forces
2)Nay
Disbanding Forces
1)Legio IV Mortis, Legio V Invicta, Legio VI Ignis to be disbanded (30 talents to pay for their retirement)
Force Deployments
1)Legio II,Legio IX, Legio VII, and 12 Legions and 5 fleets to the 3rd Macedonian War (+zephs legions if not disbanded)
Legio XV, Legio XIV and 3 legions and 2 fleets to Spanish Revolt
Garrison Legions
1) Legio I, Legio III to garrison Nearer Spain
Sertorian Land Bill Tier I (-20 talents, -1 unrest)
1) Aye
Antonine Land Bill Tier III (-10 upkeep, -3unrest)
2) Nay (all who vote nay, and if nay wins, will lose - 2 popularity )
Tax Farmer 5 (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) +14 votes, backed by Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)
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Consul Vote
1) Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus ) & Marco Flavius (Aqollo)
Censor Vote
1)Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)
Praetor Vote
2)Quintus Sertorius (Aetius)
Who will command the Third Macedonian War?
1) Galerius Nipius Africanus ( Death1816) [Populares]
Who will command the Spanish Revolt?
2) Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) [Populares]
Leving Forces
2)Nay
Disbanding Forces
1)Legio IV Mortis, Legio V Invicta, Legio VI Ignis to be disbanded (30 talents to pay for their retirement)
Force Deployments
1)Legio II,Legio IX, Legio VII, and 12 Legions and 5 fleets to the 3rd Macedonian War (+zephs legions if not disbanded)
Legio XV, Legio XIV and 3 legions and 2 fleets to Spanish Revolt
Garrison Legions
1) Legio I, Legio III to garrison Nearer Spain
Sertorian Land Bill Tier I (-20 talents, -1 unrest)
1) Aye
Antonine Land Bill Tier III (-10 upkeep, -3 unrest)
2) Nay
Tax Farmer 5 (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) +14 votes, backed by Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)
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Consul Vote
1) Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus ) & Marco Flavius (Aqollo)
Censor Vote
1)Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)
Praetor Vote
2)Quintus Sertorius (Aetius)
Who will command the Third Macedonian War?
1) Galerius Nipius Africanus ( Death1816) [Populares]
Who will command the Spanish Revolt?
2) Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) [Populares]
Leving Forces
2)Nay
Disbanding Forces
1)Legio IV Mortis, Legio V Invicta, Legio VI Ignis to be disbanded (30 talents to pay for their retirement)
Force Deployments
1)Legio II,Legio IX, Legio VII, and 12 Legions and 5 fleets to the 3rd Macedonian War (+zephs legions if not disbanded)
Legio XV, Legio XIV and 3 legions and 2 fleets to Spanish Revolt
Garrison Legions
1) Legio I, Legio III to garrison Nearer Spain
Sertorian Land Bill Tier I (-20 talents, -1 unrest)
1) Aye
Antonine Land Bill Tier III (-10 upkeep, -3unrest)
2) Nay (all who vote nay, and if nay wins, will lose - 2 popularity )
Tax Farmer 5 (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) +14 votes, backed by Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)
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Consul Vote
1) Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus ) & Marco Flavius (Aqollo)
Censor Vote
1)Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)
Praetor Vote
2)Quintus Sertorius (Aetius)
Who will command the Third Macedonian War?
1) Galerius Nipius Africanus ( Death1816) [Populares]
Who will command the Spanish Revolt?
2) Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) [Populares]
Leving Forces
2)Nay
Disbanding Forces
1)Legio IV Mortis, Legio V Invicta, Legio VI Ignis to be disbanded (30 talents to pay for their retirement)
Force Deployments
1)Legio II,Legio IX, Legio VII, and 12 Legions and 5 fleets to the 3rd Macedonian War (+zephs legions if not disbanded)
Legio XV, Legio XIV and 3 legions and 2 fleets to Spanish Revolt
Garrison Legions
1) Legio I, Legio III to garrison Nearer Spain
Sertorian Land Bill Tier I (-20 talents, -1 unrest)
1) Aye
Antonine Land Bill Tier III (-10 upkeep, -3unrest)
2) Aye (all who vote nay, and if nay wins, will lose - 2 popularity )
Tax Farmer 5 (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) +14 votes, backed by Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)
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Nice Aetius is disbanding my Legions because I refused to join Populares.
Consul: 2
Censor: 2
Praetor: 1
Macedonia: 2
Spain: 1
Leving: 2
Disbanding: 2
Force Deployment: 1
Garisson: 1
Land Bill 1: 2
Land Bill 2: 1
Tax Farmer: Abstain
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Consul: 2) Cassius Caelius (Safari) & Augustus Damasippus (Resting Lime)
Censor: 2)Gogonius Maximus (GC)
Praetor: 1)Lucius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)
Third Macedonian War: 2)Augustus Damasippus (Resting Lime) [Potestatem]
Spanish Revolt: 1) Consul Gogonius Maximus (Google Chrome) [Potestatem]
Levying forces: 1)2 Fleets & 3 legions
Disbanding forces: 2)Nay
Force deployments: 1.
Garrison Legions: 1) Legio I, Legio III to garrison Nearer Spain
BOTH land bills: 1) Aye
Concession: Zeph
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Consul Vote
2) Cassius Caelius (Safari) & Augustus Damasippus (Resting Lime)
Censor Vote
2)Gogonius Maximus (GC)
Praetor Vote
2)Quintus Sertorius (Aetius)
"Now, the Senate shall vote on the proposals of the Consuls. Tribunes speak now or forever hold your peace!"
Who will command the Third Macedonian War?
1) Galerius Nipius Africanus ( Death1816) [Populares]
Who will command the Spanish Revolt?
1) Consul Gogonius Maximus (Google Chrome) [Potestatem]
Leving Forces
2)Nay
Disbanding Forces
2)Nay
Force Deployments
1)Legio II,Legio IX, Legio VII, and 12 Legions and 5 fleets to the 3rd Macedonian War (+zephs legions if not disbanded)
Legio XV, Legio XIV and 3 legions and 2 fleets to Spanish Revolt
Garrison Legions
1) Legio I, Legio III to garrison Nearer Spain
Sertorian Land Bill Tier I (-20 talents, -1 unrest)
Sponsor: Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) (will gain +2 popularity if it passes)
Co-Sponsor: Galerius Nipius Africanus ( Death1816) (will gain +1 popularity if it passes)
1) Aye
Antonine Land Bill Tier III (-10 upkeep, -3unrest)
Sponsor: Julianus Antonius (El Tundero) (will gain +4 popularity if it passes)
Co-Sponsor: Gogonius Maximus (GC) (will gain +2 popularity if it passes)
1) Aye
Tax Farmer 5 (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Abstain
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I am going to buy 2 votes to retire the veterans.
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Consul Vote
2) Cassius Caelius (Safari) & Augustus Damasippus (Resting Lime)
Censor Vote
1)Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)
Praetor Vote
1)Lucius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)
Who will command the Third Macedonian War?
1) Galerius Nipius Africanus ( Death1816) [Populares]
Who will command the Spanish Revolt?
1) Consul Gogonius Maximus (Google Chrome) [Potestatem]
Leving Forces
2)Nay
Disbanding Forces
2)Nay
Force Deployments
1)Legio II,Legio IX, Legio VII, and 12 Legions and 5 fleets to the 3rd Macedonian War (+zephs legions if not disbanded)
Legio XV, Legio XIV and 3 legions and 2 fleets to Spanish Revolt
Garrison Legions
1) Legio I, Legio III to garrison Nearer Spain
Sertorian Land Bill Tier I (-20 talents, -1 unrest)
1) Aye
Antonine Land Bill Tier III (-10 upkeep, -3unrest)
1) Aye
Tax Farmer 5 (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Gaius Marcus (Pheonixking929 )
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"Senators of Rome, factions have arisen, factions within our own boarders. Senators with different agendas and modus. Why do we resort to such barbarian tendencies as to slander one of our own? Even more so, spending money on bringing to ruin your allies, rather the. Aiding Rome? Potestatem will not be like so, and will chose not to meet gossip with gossip, or to retaliate... This does not mean that we don't wish to retaliate, but that we shall restrain from doing so! For Rome!"
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Consul Vote
2) Cassius Caelius (Safari) & Augustus Damasippus (Resting Lime)
Censor Vote
1)Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)
Praetor Vote
1)Lucius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)
Who will command the Third Macedonian War?
1) Galerius Nipius Africanus ( Death1816) [Populares]
Who will command the Spanish Revolt?
1) Consul Gogonius Maximus (Google Chrome) [Potestatem]
Leving Forces
2)Nay
Disbanding Forces
2)Nay
Force Deployments
1)Legio II,Legio IX, Legio VII, and 12 Legions and 5 fleets to the 3rd Macedonian War (+zephs legions if not disbanded)
Legio XV, Legio XIV and 3 legions and 2 fleets to Spanish Revolt
Garrison Legions
1) Legio I, Legio III to garrison Nearer Spain
Sertorian Land Bill Tier I (-20 talents, -1 unrest)
1) Aye
Antonine Land Bill Tier III (-10 upkeep, -3unrest)
1) Aye
Tax Farmer 5 (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Gaius Marcus (Pheonixking929 )
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If someone is out of Rome, intrigues shouldn't work on them... Blackmail, assasinations, body gaurds are all annulled, so why are you playing the influence peddling on me?
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And my loyal legions should do as I say, they aren't subject to a vote, if I want them with me in Spain they should follow, just as they would follow if I was revolting.
Sidenote: Ally faggery should be left in world map ... Factions aren't this big in the board game, so put a limit on how large they can be. What's the point in having a faction if everyone can join it?
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Also, as governor can I engage the Spanish rebels with whoever attacks?
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Consul Vote
1) Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus ) & Marco Flavius (Aqollo)
Censor Vote
1)Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)
Praetor Vote
2)Quintus Sertorius (Aetius)
Who will command the Third Macedonian War?
1) Galerius Nipius Africanus ( Death1816) [Populares]
Who will command the Spanish Revolt?
2) Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) [Populares]
Leving Forces
2)Nay
Disbanding Forces
1)Legio IV Mortis, Legio V Invicta, Legio VI Ignis to be disbanded (30 talents to pay for their retirement)
Force Deployments
1)Legio II,Legio IX, Legio VII, and 12 Legions and 5 fleets to the 3rd Macedonian War (+zephs legions if not disbanded)
Legio XV, Legio XIV and 3 legions and 2 fleets to Spanish Revolt
Garrison Legions
1) Legio I, Legio III to garrison Nearer Spain
Sertorian Land Bill Tier I (-20 talents, -1 unrest)
1) Aye
Antonine Land Bill Tier III (-10 upkeep, -3 unrest)
As Pontifex Maximus I veto this proposal
Tax Farmer 5 (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) +14 votes, backed by Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)
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Geschrieben von Phoenix, 10.09.2016 at 07:56
Ally faggery should be left in world map ... Factions aren't this big in the board game, so put a limit on how large they can be. What's the point in having a faction if everyone can join it?
This is politics and ally faggery is kind of expected. Besides actual Roman Senate, the Populares were always the majority.
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Muh legions Q_Q
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Geschrieben von Darth., 10.09.2016 at 09:30
Geschrieben von Phoenix, 10.09.2016 at 07:56
Ally faggery should be left in world map ... Factions aren't this big in the board game, so put a limit on how large they can be. What's the point in having a faction if everyone can join it?
This is politics and ally faggery is kind of expected. Besides actual Roman Senate, the Populares were always the majority.
I'm more concerned about playing a functional game.
Populares is actively trying to recruit the neutrals, if they added zeph and mrarmy they would have more than half the field. In the actual game its possible for the largest faction to win on turn 50 based on most influence and they can easily win any vote and horde powerful positions this way.
If factions can grow to that size its not much incentive for anyone else to continue playing.
That's why the board game has factions of like 4 people played by one person.
If Populares continues this way they will only insure a quick hollow victory.
Message for you Darth: Nice going against your previous faction and joining the enemy.
As for Aqollo and ghost, the fact your leader was assassinated by those you joined is disgustingly treacherous... You're all no better than kebab noobs in 50k world spamming tanks and allying 90% of the others to "win".
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Geschrieben von Phoenix, 10.09.2016 at 10:13
Message for you Darth: Nice going against your previous faction and joining the enemy.
Well it was either that, or remain factionless. Also since Virtus Faction collapsed, I owe them no loyalty anymore. Besides, I hardly think we were enemies. More opposition. Neither of us tried to kill the other...
Zitat:
As for Aqollo and ghost, the fact your leader was assassinated by those you joined is disgustingly treacherous... You're all no better than kebab noobs in 50k world spamming tanks and allying 90% of the others to "win".
Hey now, for all you know it could be Tunder or Zeph, or anybody. There's no proof that JF was assassinated by Aetius or Pyrrhus or whoever.
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Geschrieben von Darth., 10.09.2016 at 10:20
Hey now, for all you know it could be Tunder or Zeph, or anybody. There's no proof that JF was assassinated by Aetius or Pyrrhus or whoever.
It wasn't me, I've been wasting all my money on Equites
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Geschrieben von Zephyrusu, 10.09.2016 at 10:25
Geschrieben von Darth., 10.09.2016 at 10:20
Hey now, for all you know it could be Tunder or Zeph, or anybody. There's no proof that JF was assassinated by Aetius or Pyrrhus or whoever.
It wasn't me, I've been wasting all my money on Equites
Never said it was you man
Just saying it could be anybody, and gave the first two names that popped in my head.
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BTW please make a Sicilian revolt ahaha, I wanna crush them upstart slaves with muh auxiliaries.
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Geschrieben von Darth., 10.09.2016 at 10:27
BTW please make a Sicilian revolt ahaha, I wanna crush them upstart slaves with muh auxiliaries.
Wait for Servile War
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Geschrieben von Zephyrusu, 10.09.2016 at 10:54
Geschrieben von Darth., 10.09.2016 at 10:27
BTW please make a Sicilian revolt ahaha, I wanna crush them upstart slaves with muh auxiliaries.
Wait for Servile War
My term ending next turn that's why.
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Geschrieben von Darth., 10.09.2016 at 10:26
Geschrieben von Zephyrusu, 10.09.2016 at 10:25
Geschrieben von Darth., 10.09.2016 at 10:20
Hey now, for all you know it could be Tunder or Zeph, or anybody. There's no proof that JF was assassinated by Aetius or Pyrrhus or whoever.
It wasn't me, I've been wasting all my money on Equites
Never said it was you man
Just saying it could be anybody, and gave the first two names that popped in my head.
It was populares that did it, they spent 40 talents on assassination cards, I've been keeping track of money. Don't talk nonsense
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Geschrieben von Phoenix, 10.09.2016 at 07:56
And my loyal legions should do as I say, they aren't subject to a vote, if I want them with me in Spain they should follow, just as they would follow if I was revolting.
Do you consider yourself above the senate? Legions obey the republic, the highest authority in the state. If you consider yourself above that authority that means you choose to rebel, in which case then they will follow you.
Geschrieben von Phoenix, 10.09.2016 at 07:56
Sidenote: Ally faggery should be left in world map ... Factions aren't this big in the board game, so put a limit on how large they can be. What's the point in having a faction if everyone can join it?
In the orig game, depends on how many players there are, if there are 2 there would be 2 factions. Also it doesn't seem to be any limit on how many senators could be in a faction in that game. What is now arising is just the free market of politics taking its natural course. The early republic was a nicer kinder game of 3 parties, neutrals, cooperation and open-ness. I think from now on, the party that has fewer voting power is going to have to resort to bribery or intrigue to make up for their political weakness. Wishing for old times to return is probably delusional now.
That being said, I do see a game-play issue with this. Imagine a faction gains like 90% of the players just revolts and they all join and overthrow the government, seems rather silly. Limiting factions to 5 players may help though.
Geschrieben von Phoenix, 10.09.2016 at 07:53
If someone is out of Rome, intrigues shouldn't work on them... Blackmail, assasinations, body gaurds are all annulled, so why are you playing the influence peddling on me?
Imo only assassination makes sense. The other two are just having your equites swayed at dinner parties and blackmail can happen from afar.
Geschrieben von Phoenix, 10.09.2016 at 07:53
Also, as governor can I engage the Spanish rebels with whoever attacks?
Yes, but only if my army is defeated. The consuls sent legions to you so we could 2 chances to fight in that case. Your job as governor is to rule it, collect taxes, and keep it safe.
btw will update turn, Resting Lime will be assumed to vote along his faction leaders vote
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Geschrieben von Aetius, 10.09.2016 at 11:33
Imo only assassination makes sense. The other two are just having your equites swayed at dinner parties and blackmail can happen from afar.
In that case I'll use my Tribune card.... I veto the dismembering of Zephyrus' Veteran legions. It is a waste of money to have them removed, I see no logical reason to have them dismantled other than to spite him for not joining your faction.
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Geschrieben von Phoenix, 10.09.2016 at 11:38
Geschrieben von Aetius, 10.09.2016 at 11:33
Imo only assassination makes sense. The other two are just having your equites swayed at dinner parties and blackmail can happen from afar.
In that case I'll use my Tribune card.... I veto the dismembering of Zephyrus' Veteran legions. It is a waste of money to have them removed, I see no logical reason to have them dismantled other than to spite him for not joining your faction.
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