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19.03.2021 - 14:39
Movie depicting lesser known history of genocide of jews, serbs and romas in Europe, in Croatia. Croatia was the 2nd Axis nation after Germany that opened camps, and the only Axis that had camps designed for children. 400,000 people were killed by the croatian nazi regime only, to additional 500,000-700,000 killed by the war in Yugoslavia. Of them, 30,000 jews died in the holocaust in Croatia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dara_of_Jasenovac



This is probably the first movie dealing with this dark issue in Croatia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_in_the_Independent_State_of_Croatia

The largest Croatian camp was Jasenovac, where 90,000 people where killed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasenovac_concentration_camp

Children camps
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisak_children%27s_concentration_camp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jastrebarsko_children%27s_camp



It must be mentioned that Austrian woman saved 10,000 children from these camps and countryside in Croatia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Budisavljevi%C4%87

A true feminist and brave woman, unlike modern ones with dyed hair!



It is also shocking that Croatian media, after this, accused Croatian Audivisual Centre for not spending on historical movies, like it is a competition! And for movie portraiting Croats as bad! Imagine Germany complaining for Schindler's list because German nazis are depicted as killers!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dara_of_Jasenovac#Reaction
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19.03.2021 - 15:51
 Oleg
Nice movie, here I suggest the 2021 Oscars nominee movie about the biggest massacre since WW2, the Srebrenica genocide:

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19.03.2021 - 15:53
The what
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20.03.2021 - 18:00
Lol @Pavle
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20.03.2021 - 19:33
There are many films for foibe too.
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22.03.2021 - 05:46
Geschrieben von JUGERS2, 20.03.2021 at 19:33

There are many films for foibe too.


I didn't know that, thanks for info, i'd like to see it, do you have any link?

It seems that croat nazis did not kill only in death camps, but also threw people into foibes, herzegovina (south bosnia) is full of them, rocky pits!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prebilovci_massacre

Communist guerilla (partisan) wrote a poem called Jama(Foibe) about it;
https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jama_(poema)

Here's a complete map of genocide upon serbs and jews in Yugoslavia
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/Fascist_genocide_in_yugoslavia-sr.png

It is shocking how few people know about this episode of WW2, they almost got away with it due to all eyes being focused on Germany and their crimes!
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22.03.2021 - 19:24
Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 19.03.2021 at 14:39

The largest Croatian camp was Jasenovac, where 90,000 people where killed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasenovac_concentration_camp

Hello Mr.Number

You got a new calculator for birthday? It took you almost 6 years to come from 800.000 people killed in Jasenovac to 90.000 (so, almost 10x less number ).
Let's remind ourselves what you claimed back in 2015:

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 05.08.2015 at 05:03

they acknowledge 700,000 to 800,000 killed in only one death camp

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 04.08.2015 at 13:40

Only in one death camp croatian fascists killed 700,000 of them!

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 04.08.2015 at 13:40

Croatia had second largest Death Camp, called Yasenovats (croat: Jasenovac). Croatian fascists planned and killed 700,000 Serbs and smaller number of Jews and Romanis.


Can't wait to see what will next 6 years bring from you about Croatian concentration camp. Maybe it's denial?


Whatsmore:
Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 19.03.2021 at 14:39

400,000 people were killed by the croatian nazi regime only,


Uhh shit, error404 again.
How it's 400.000 people in total now?
Back in 2015., you claimed that under Croatian nazi regime there were 1.500.000 killed Serbs only. Where are the others.... Probably billions?
Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 04.08.2015 at 13:40

between 1,000,000 and 1,500,000 Serbs killed by Croats in Croatia and Bosnia



Anyways, I suggest you to stop losing time on throwing your traditional propaganda to atwar forums. Not because of myself or potential forum flames, but to stop embarrassing yourself with stuff no one cares about. Your veracity and credibility is equal to 0, barely anyone takes you seriously
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22.03.2021 - 20:48
 Oleg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Godwin's law says that no matter the topic in the online discussion it's inevitable that at one point someone will mention and draw comparisons with Hitler and nazism.

P.S
Geschrieben von Croat, 22.03.2021 at 19:24

zip

His numbers have changed, and that may be because he is not a Serb from Bosnia anymore, but rather Russian-Greek lad now. Does he still know our language? How does he not get bored by constantly recycling the same topics over and over again, and doing so for the last 10 years on forum of a browser game...
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22.03.2021 - 23:55
Geschrieben von Croat, 22.03.2021 at 19:24

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 19.03.2021 at 14:39

The largest Croatian camp was Jasenovac, where 90,000 people where killed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasenovac_concentration_camp

Hello Mr.Number

You got a new calculator for birthday? It took you almost 6 years to come from 800.000 people killed in Jasenovac to 80.000 (so, like 10x less number ).
Let's remind ourselves what you claimed back in 2015:

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 05.08.2015 at 05:03

they acknowledge 700,000 to 800,000 killed in only one death camp

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 04.08.2015 at 13:40

Only in one death camp croatian fascists killed 700,000 of them!

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 04.08.2015 at 13:40

Croatia had second largest Death Camp, called Yasenovats (croat: Jasenovac). Croatian fascists planned and killed 700,000 Serbs and smaller number of Jews and Romanis.


Can't wait to see what will next 6 years bring from you about Croatian concentration camp. Maybe it's denial?


Whatsmore:
Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 19.03.2021 at 14:39

400,000 people were killed by the croatian nazi regime only,


Uhh shit, error404 again.
How it's 400.000 people in total now?
Back in 2015., you claimed that under Croatian nazi regime there were 1.500.000 killed Serbs only. Where are the others.... Probably billions?
Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 04.08.2015 at 13:40

between 1,000,000 and 1,500,000 Serbs killed by Croats in Croatia and Bosnia



Anyways, I suggest you to stop losing time on throwing your traditional propaganda to atwar forums. Not because of myself or potential forum flames, but to stop embarrassing yourself with stuff no one cares about. Your veracity and credibility is equal to 0, barely anyone takes you seriously

I take him seriously
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23.03.2021 - 09:02
Geschrieben von Croat, 22.03.2021 at 19:24

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 19.03.2021 at 14:39

The largest Croatian camp was Jasenovac, where 90,000 people where killed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasenovac_concentration_camp

Hello Mr.Number

You got a new calculator for birthday? It took you almost 6 years to come from 800.000 people killed in Jasenovac to 90.000 (so, almost 10x less number ).
Let's remind ourselves what you claimed back in 2015:

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 05.08.2015 at 05:03

they acknowledge 700,000 to 800,000 killed in only one death camp

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 04.08.2015 at 13:40

Only in one death camp croatian fascists killed 700,000 of them!

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 04.08.2015 at 13:40

Croatia had second largest Death Camp, called Yasenovats (croat: Jasenovac). Croatian fascists planned and killed 700,000 Serbs and smaller number of Jews and Romanis.


Can't wait to see what will next 6 years bring from you about Croatian concentration camp. Maybe it's denial?


Whatsmore:
Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 19.03.2021 at 14:39

400,000 people were killed by the croatian nazi regime only,


Uhh shit, error404 again.
How it's 400.000 people in total now?
Back in 2015., you claimed that under Croatian nazi regime there were 1.500.000 killed Serbs only. Where are the others.... Probably billions?
Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 04.08.2015 at 13:40

between 1,000,000 and 1,500,000 Serbs killed by Croats in Croatia and Bosnia



Anyways, I suggest you to stop losing time on throwing your traditional propaganda to atwar forums. Not because of myself or potential forum flames, but to stop embarrassing yourself with stuff no one cares about. Your veracity and credibility is equal to 0, barely anyone takes you seriously


I didn't change anything, this was my source back then:
https://prnt.sc/10tiruv

You should be ashamed of yourself, atleast don't post if you are not going to write about the Holocaust in Croatia. Instead, you play with numbers and mock people.
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24.03.2021 - 12:56


If it happend (it did) and the goverment of the nation that did that admitted its mistake then whats there up for debate? it is what it is, whats sad is alot of people just use these genocides or massacres without caring about the people that died in them just citing them to attack another country.
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25.03.2021 - 11:50
Geschrieben von Brsjak, 24.03.2021 at 12:56



If it happend (it did) and the goverment of the nation that did that admitted its mistake then whats there up for debate? it is what it is, whats sad is alot of people just use these genocides or massacres without caring about the people that died in them just citing them to attack another country.


For you it may be statistic, for normal people it is tragedy.

Can you give me actual proof of genocide recognition? I am trying to google it but all i get are results 'should croatia recognize genocide/holocaust?' So i don't have concrete confirmation of genocide recognition to use as a source.

For example, wikipedia page about genocide of serbs is translated into croatian: 'Serbs in NHD: number of victims', genocide is not the topic there, but population statistics (click on english to compare, it's 2 different articles, not same and translated)

https://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srbi_u_NDH:_Broj_%C5%BErtava
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