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Verfasst von Ivan, 01.10.2013 - 05:58
1. Removed win/loss ratio from profiles and coalitions. Added 'games won' and 'games abandoned' (%). This should hopefully encourage people to play the game to the end or at least surrender. Note that people will still be leaving games no matter what penalties we come up with. Just focus on maps and scenarios that don't require every player to be present - then leaving won't be such a huge deal.
2. Players will be allowed to stay in the Beginners room until rank 5 (including 5). Ranks 0-3 wont' be allowed to enter the Main room. This would prevent newbies from being horribly slaughtered and stop guest alts from starting scenarios in the Main room.
3. Penalty for extra alliances. We want alliances to be more strategic, so that you can't just ally every player on the map. To that end we want to make the first alliance free, but each extra alliance to bear some penalty - SP or money, I guess. Please post your suggestions here.
4. Coalitions:
- Only coalitions that have played a CW in the last 30 days will be listed in the index, similar to the players list. Other coalitions will be available under a "show all" link.
- Players will receive double SP in CW.
- Latest CWs will be shown in player profiles.
- Season will now have 20 games, with the last 20 games counted (as opposed to first 10 currently).
- The significance of competence will be lowered. CP gained/lost will range between 50 and 100 (currently be 1-100). Meaningful competence will range between 0.75 and 2. Anything below will count as 0.75, anything above will counts as 2.
5. No surrender in solo games, only abandon. Solo games wouldn't add to 'games played' stat nor to the 'games abandoned' percentage in profiles.
Spectacular!
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Gosh... I think i'm going to enjoy staying in Beginners Room now 
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Overall I am excited about the changes. "Quick to implement" gives some hope that the books are not closed on every subject, which is good to hear also. I like solutions (1) and (2). For solution (3), it would be well to consider that some games are large, and forming 2-3 alliances is reasonable. But in games with less than 6 players, even one alliance is too much. I suggest that allying more than 20% of the players in the game should bear an additional SP penalty (1st free of course). Solution (4) does well to increase motivation for playing CWs, especially the double SP bonus and profile distinctions. Very nice! Minimum 50 points won/lost will definitely be enough motivation for high competence clans to continue CWing. But I am curious as to why the last 20 count instead of the first 20. I can't think of the motivation behind this, so please elaborate. You might consider that once a coalition plays more than 20 games in a season, the average is taken and multiplied by 20. This statistic is more representative of the coalition's season. Overall, very pleased. Thanks.
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After some thought over the third point, I think the size of the penalty, which ever you choose between money or SP, should also depend on the rank of the player. I personally do not have a problem with players of any rank ally fagging against me but the current solution may just further encourage higher ranks to stick together which really does not help or solve the problem for lower ranking and new players. Just something that we should be aware of. If others see this as a potential problem derived from the current solution, other possible working tweaks to the solution should be shared. EDIT: I just remembered that we have a huge drop in skill level with the newer higher ranks so this may not even be a problem.
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The logic is, instead of stropping playing CWs after hitting 20 games, coalitions can continue playing and trying to improve their first games by replacing them with the latest ones. Your second suggestion makes sense, but I wouldn't want to overcomplicate the mechanics at this point.
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It's not that many, maybe 25 or so, the others being team practice or abandoned for legit reasons. It's mostly to try out 1st turn expansions with different countries. Anyway, I don't want to veer off-topic. What I was getting at, with regards to point #1, is that games abandoned when playing solo should not count. There are a few other situations where you should be able to abandon without penalty: if the host abandons because of 1st turn leavers is one that comes to mind.
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Solo games will no longer count in 'games played', so leaving them won't affect your 'games abandoned' stat. Also, it would now be impossible to surrender in solo games.
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How can you fix secret alliance if you get rid of formal alliances? People will ally informally or formally. Also what does that mean to team games such as WWII? If you reduce sp at the end, then ally ending is going to have a small speed bump. I never really had problems with people allying everybody, because when they do that, they already giving themselves a major reduction in power, because more land = more units and money. After owning half the world, it merely become cleaning up the rest of the them. To fix the leaving problem, i think we should deduct sp for leaving a game after you play 4 turns, maybe 1k sp. You shouldn't be allowed to leave until 15 weeks later, and each consecutive leave will increase the amount of sp lost. You could do only the first person to leave a game recieves a 5k lost to sp, and then anyone who leaves next receives no lost.
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15 turns are unnecessary, 5 is fine, you could very easily lose before 15 turns in the game has passed.
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That's great! Thanks!
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Please implement aw to steam greenlight
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This, this this.
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This doesn't really belong in this thread, but I can tell that it's not possible for us currently to comply with Steam requirements.
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Please take into consideration(try to implement) the rated team games that Cow had proposed several times.
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No.
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I mean the amount of SP earned in the game is penalized.
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The new alliance system: Genius!
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I had to make a new account to play with my friends, because they cannot play in main..and I can't in beginner because I am r8. is there anyway we could fix this?
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Maybe, they can join games with password on the main room... just a suggestion
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No. In fact, we don't even count the number of abandoned games, just games played, lost and won. Right now solo games are simply not added to 'games played' stat.
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LOL you are an abandoner!
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I dont need to read nothing in this message, just your profile.
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