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Verfasst von Viruslegion, 24.03.2016 - 13:31
Http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/03/23/tears-teddy-bears-but-no-resolve-to-deal-with-islamist-threat-in-europe/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social
25.03.2016 - 14:01
Geschrieben von Abraham, 25.03.2016 at 10:37

Wow, couple of terror attacks in West by muslims and there is so much hate towards islam in the forum. Stop calling them terrorists they are freedom fighters they fight injustice with violence which is legitimate reason to the apartheid they face on daily basis. Give them their Londonistan, Parisistan, Berlinabad and so on. Those are stolen lands of Islamic people called envadeim. #free-envadeim-now
In behalf of the free world I urge Europeans that the killing of innocent peaceful envadeim protesters that carry knives, molotov, hot weapons, tanka have to stop, they are people too they want peace, but to reach it you need to start negotiations and give them their lands as sign of beginning to end this conflict.


youre right, european countries should start killing those terrorist 8 year old kids, just like you and your israeli army,which is considered the most honorable army in world (like wtf? ) , are doing to palestinians kids,womens and old people.
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25.03.2016 - 14:12
Geschrieben von AlBoZzZ, 25.03.2016 at 14:01

Geschrieben von Abraham, 25.03.2016 at 10:37

Wow, couple of terror attacks in West by muslims and there is so much hate towards islam in the forum. Stop calling them terrorists they are freedom fighters they fight injustice with violence which is legitimate reason to the apartheid they face on daily basis. Give them their Londonistan, Parisistan, Berlinabad and so on. Those are stolen lands of Islamic people called envadeim. #free-envadeim-now
In behalf of the free world I urge Europeans that the killing of innocent peaceful envadeim protesters that carry knives, molotov, hot weapons, tanka have to stop, they are people too they want peace, but to reach it you need to start negotiations and give them their lands as sign of beginning to end this conflict.


youre right, european countries should start killing those terrorist 8 year old kids, just like you and your israeli army,which is considered the most honorable army in world (like wtf? ) , are doing to palestinians kids,womens and old people.


you don't have any ability to understand people claims or even any situation at all do you?
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25.03.2016 - 14:15
Geschrieben von Waffel, 25.03.2016 at 13:22



Sorry if i hurt your feelings dear, but you need a strong dose of reality to hit you in the head to understand. When a teenager becomes an adult he has a responsibility to be informed and protect his family and people. You can vote and your views as a citizen help form Europe's public opinion as a whole and can thus influence policy. Journalists, scientists, writers, artists in Western Europe and in your country are afraid to express themselves and write and say what the European law clearly allow them to, from fear they might get targeted and assasinated by Islamists.

You indirectly support the perpetrators with your naivety. You indirectly hinder the concept of freedom of speech and expression.

By supporting Islam, you also support the opression that kids like you in the Middle East face daily, that do not have the fortune to enjoy what you take for granted. If they come out of the closet they die, if they critisize Islam or the government they die, if they write a blog expressing their thoughts freely they die, if girls get raped they should just shut up about it or die. This is what you advocate honey, join us back to reality please.













Geschrieben von Waffel, 25.03.2016 at 13:22

My anwser:


As you can see in the picture a pig is hung with the text: ''We say NO to AZC '' AZC is a refugeecentrum. And these are only the ''smaller'' things in NL. Ofcourse small examples, but there are way more things I can name.

A pig, an animal muslims don't eat because the koran says it is unclean. Shows a huge amount of disrespect.


Oh mee gee! Pls no, not the pigs!! A dead pig, how dare they! such disrespect, much insult, bad european!

Meanwhile this is the treatment your christian friends get over there.





Geschrieben von Waffel, 25.03.2016 at 13:22


I think the video speaks for its self.


Whoah!! Some drunk football fans actually gave money to some immigrants, albeit laughing at them. They even took it as far as burning money infront of the poor souls! How will they ever forget this nightmare!!

Meanwhile in Muslimstan;



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25.03.2016 - 14:30
Geschrieben von International, 24.03.2016 at 20:08

It's not really an economic system flaw. Western Europe can afford to support not a few million, but easily a hundred million refugees. The problem is not economic, but rather social.

Western European society has demonstrated their stunning inability to integrate refugees of a different culture, to provide meaningful labor opportunities available to refugees, and to instill modern values in their immigrants. This is seriously crippling Western Europe's ability to absorb refugees.


When i say system, i mean all combined: social sphere, economic sphere and political sphere.
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25.03.2016 - 14:34
I'm gonna get bashed around right now but I'd actually support either a massive bombing campaign on ISIS territory combined with an alliance of the International Coalition with Assad or an alliance with Assad and troops from NATO/EU-USA on the ground. We're not gonna stop this with deporting and bombing, and EU continuosly accepting immigrants as they're doing isnt the way either.
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25.03.2016 - 14:36
Geschrieben von Cold Case, 25.03.2016 at 12:04

Prob out of the topic but you know that russia and usa either dont care about what happens
Just saying.


Why would they, nothing wrong going on. USA have immigration since 1775, millions of foreigners. Every fifth in USA is immigrant (40 million), and Russia have 35 million non-Russians, 20 million of them muslims, 10 million immigrants, 80% of them muslims.

Europe is just incapable and flawed.
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25.03.2016 - 14:49
Geschrieben von Khal.eesi, 25.03.2016 at 14:15

Sorry if i hurt your feelings dear, but you need a strong dose of reality to hit you in the head to understand. When a teenager becomes an adult he has a responsibility to be informed and protect his family and people. You can vote and your views as a citizen help form Europe's public opinion as a whole and can thus influence policy. Journalists, scientists, writers, artists in Western Europe and in your country are afraid to express themselves and write and say what the European law clearly allow them to, from fear they might get targeted and assasinated by Islamists.

You indirectly support the perpetrators with your naivety. You indirectly hinder the concept of freedom of speech and expression.

By supporting Islam, you also support the opression that kids like you in the Middle East face daily, that do not have the fortune to enjoy what you take for granted. If they come out of the closet they die, if they critisize Islam or the government they die, if they write a blog expressing their thoughts freely they die, if girls get raped they should just shut up about it or die. This is what you advocate honey, join us back to reality please. :kiss

And your reality is to send those people who ran away from what you just mentioned back? Your reality is to make every muslim feel like a minority? Accusing every muslim of being a terrorist and holding them responsible for every attack made by the individuals called IS? Because if this is the reality you believe in, then boy, I pray for you and i'd stay in ''fantasy land''. I dont know how the journalists, scientists, writers and artists are in greece, but as far as I know about NL /france/uk/germany, most of those anti-islam politicians have no problem at all saying LESS LESS muslims on live tv, or social media. So I dont know why you even start about no ffreedom of speech, when freedom of speech is not hurt at all.

I think it was Phoenix who said, that those attacks are probably the response of IS about all these things I just mentioned. I do not support anyway of terrorists attack in anyway, but neither do I support shallow minded people who exactly DO what IS wants, reacting to it and tearing cultures inside countries apart. And like you said indirectly support, but you and those who shout out anti-islam indirectly support IS too, you know how? By exactly doing what IS is trying to do, tearing the cultures apart by mourning for especially western countries, but not for ''not western'' countries like Turkey, your NEIGHBOUR country, which happened to be attacked twice in a row, a couple of days before the attacks in Belgium, but did anyone shed a tear for that? No.

And Khal, you probably don't know how that feels right now, but when Greece gets attacked by IS and none of the world will say RIP Athene or mourn for greece, then you know how those people felt. Eventhough you guys are white, Greece remains to be still that country that put EU in economical crisis (is what those people will think, those shallow minded people, YOU SUPPORT). Think twice before saying stuff like this Khal. And lets hope nothing will happen in Greece ofcourse.

But if you see the patern of IS, it seems that they attack the countries that take in refugees, and we can't deny that Greece is part of that list.
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25.03.2016 - 14:51
Geschrieben von Al Fappino, 25.03.2016 at 14:34

I'm gonna get bashed around right now but I'd actually support either a massive bombing campaign on ISIS territory combined with an alliance of the International Coalition with Assad or an alliance with Assad and troops from NATO/EU-USA on the ground. We're not gonna stop this with deporting and bombing, and EU continuosly accepting immigrants as they're doing isnt the way either.

You want an alliance with Assad!? He is one of the problems why IS is this powerfull and why all those refugees run away and get killed. He kills his own civilians....

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25.03.2016 - 15:10
Geschrieben von Khal.eesi, 25.03.2016 at 14:15


Oh and as anwser on your vids:

You just showed I think all, except the first one, but its the media and probably just fake, muslims killing muslims, which has nothing to do with the topic? Because if you want to start like this, how about Anders Breivik killing 77 WESTERN teenagers? How about all these pedophiles? You barely have them in the Islam, and if so they get killed(which most of the people find a good punishment for pedo's) (crueel world right? Not only the Islam), unlike the western society that keeps them away for 1 year? or gives them conditionally punishments for couple of months ? (and I feel disgusting just comparing these things now, but you wanted to start this way) How about the KKK? Arent they terrorists? How many Afroamerican people have they killed? What about Bush? Even a huge amount of America starts believing the stories about 9/11 being an inside job. Alot of christian extremists in america but also in europe who kill their own children bcs they are gay, transgender/bi, use excorsism to cure their children/family and more and more. Every religion has its flaws and its goods, I for one believe that religion is number 1 reason all these wars even happen, but its to late for the world. This world will not live long if its going the way it is going now, and I fear for that, and so should you. Because I believe there will be ww3 soon against the muslims, and I think it will probably be the last war earth will have. Greedyness and money is killing this world, together with endeavoring for the most superior race, alot of lefties (I think you too) want this. They see the white race as the only race that should be alive. It is disgusting, nobody can make a choice for me nor for anyone else but themself.
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25.03.2016 - 15:16
Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 25.03.2016 at 14:36

Geschrieben von Cold Case, 25.03.2016 at 12:04

Prob out of the topic but you know that russia and usa either dont care about what happens
Just saying.


Why would they, nothing wrong going on. USA have immigration since 1775, millions of foreigners. Every fifth in USA is immigrant (40 million), and Russia have 35 million non-Russians, 20 million of them muslims, 10 million immigrants, 80% of them muslims.

Europe is just incapable and flawed.


USA's muslim pop are 5 million whilst Europes is 40 and predicted to double over the next 10 years, what are you comparing? Moreso Russian calling Europe incapable and flawed, thats rich, when Russia cant provide to its own citizens the standard of living Europe provides for its immigrants. Moreso, Russia cant even guarantee the protection of the freedoms and rights of its own citizens, thus one can only imagine the treatment of the minorities.
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25.03.2016 - 15:23
Geschrieben von Waffel, 25.03.2016 at 04:08

Geschrieben von Viruslegion, 24.03.2016 at 19:36

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 24.03.2016 at 18:41

Geschrieben von Viruslegion, 24.03.2016 at 18:06


Stop playing games and get serious. Russia which is 20 times poorer than West built homes and found jobs for 2 million Ukrainian refugees for this 2 years

comparing Eastern Orthodox Ukrainian refugees with Islamic Middle Eastern "refugees" is like comparing apples and oranges, one group is legitimately seeking a more peaceful place to live, and another is subversively invading western europe

but kudos to Russia for being so generous to the Ukrainians

The problem with your reasoning is the hate towards the Islam you have. A flaw alot of politicians have nowdays. Actions based on this hate, suggestions based on this hate. If you look at what America and Europe have done in history, you'll find out who the real terrorists are.

If I look at history I see that Islam was founded on hatred and violence and has continued that trend up until today, don't lecture me on history when you yourself are so ignorant
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25.03.2016 - 15:26
Geschrieben von Viruslegion, 25.03.2016 at 15:23

Geschrieben von Waffel, 25.03.2016 at 04:08

Geschrieben von Viruslegion, 24.03.2016 at 19:36

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 24.03.2016 at 18:41

Geschrieben von Viruslegion, 24.03.2016 at 18:06


Stop playing games and get serious. Russia which is 20 times poorer than West built homes and found jobs for 2 million Ukrainian refugees for this 2 years

comparing Eastern Orthodox Ukrainian refugees with Islamic Middle Eastern "refugees" is like comparing apples and oranges, one group is legitimately seeking a more peaceful place to live, and another is subversively invading western europe

but kudos to Russia for being so generous to the Ukrainians

The problem with your reasoning is the hate towards the Islam you have. A flaw alot of politicians have nowdays. Actions based on this hate, suggestions based on this hate. If you look at what America and Europe have done in history, you'll find out who the real terrorists are.

If I look at history I see that Islam was founded on hatred and violence and has continued that trend up until today, don't lecture me on history when you yourself are so ignorant

Founded on hatred and violence? Please explain yourself on that?
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25.03.2016 - 15:34
Geschrieben von Waffel, 25.03.2016 at 15:26

Geschrieben von Viruslegion, 25.03.2016 at 15:23

Geschrieben von Waffel, 25.03.2016 at 04:08

Geschrieben von Viruslegion, 24.03.2016 at 19:36

Geschrieben von Skanderbeg, 24.03.2016 at 18:41

Geschrieben von Viruslegion, 24.03.2016 at 18:06






Founded on hatred and violence? Please explain yourself on that?

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."
Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."
Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."
Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."
Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"
Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."
Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His cause"
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25.03.2016 - 15:34
Geschrieben von Waffel, 25.03.2016 at 14:51

Geschrieben von Al Fappino, 25.03.2016 at 14:34

I'm gonna get bashed around right now but I'd actually support either a massive bombing campaign on ISIS territory combined with an alliance of the International Coalition with Assad or an alliance with Assad and troops from NATO/EU-USA on the ground. We're not gonna stop this with deporting and bombing, and EU continuosly accepting immigrants as they're doing isnt the way either.

You want an alliance with Assad!? He is one of the problems why IS is this powerfull and why all those refugees run away and get killed. He kills his own civilians....

Dude...



Sometimes it is better to let the Dictators stay and (temporarily) ally with them, besides, he does has a point he's showed in past interviews, How could he be in power if people he has under control (territorially) dont support him?

And he hasn't been the direct cause to the rise of ISIS in Syria, the Civil War has.
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25.03.2016 - 15:44
Geschrieben von Waffel, 25.03.2016 at 15:10

Geschrieben von Khal.eesi, 25.03.2016 at 14:15


Oh and as anwser on your vids:

You just showed I think all, except the first one, but its the media and probably just fake, muslims killing muslims, which has nothing to do with the topic? Because if you want to start like this, how about Anders Breivik killing 77 WESTERN teenagers? How about all these pedophiles? You barely have them in the Islam, and if so they get killed(which most of the people find a good punishment for pedo's) (crueel world right? Not only the Islam), unlike the western society that keeps them away for 1 year? or gives them conditionally punishments for couple of months ? (and I feel disgusting just comparing these things now, but you wanted to start this way) How about the KKK? Arent they terrorists? How many Afroamerican people have they killed? What about Bush? Even a huge amount of America starts believing the stories about 9/11 being an inside job. Alot of christian extremists in america but also in europe who kill their own children of they are gay, use excorsism to cure their children/family and more and more. Every religion has its flaws and its goods, I for one believe that religion is number 1 reason all these wars even happen, but its to late for the world. This world will not live long if its going the way it is going now, and I fear for that, and so should you. Because I believe there will be ww3 soon against the muslims, and I think it will probably be the last war earth will have. Greedyness and money is killing this world, together with endeavoring for the most superior race, alot of lefties (I think you too) want this. They see the white race as the only race that should be alive. It is disgusting, nobody can make a choice for me nor for anyone else but themself.



From a Norwegian terrorist to labeling mobile phone leaked videos as "media" to calling Westerners pedophiles (while exonerating muslims, where child slavery, rape and child marriages are every day occurences- even their prophet married a 9 year old) to bringing in freaking KKK and blacks to 9/11 conspiracy theories to world war 3 against the muslims. What a trip, wow lol. Your grasp on (geo)politics and international relations are that of a child, i have nothing to reply
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25.03.2016 - 15:59
Geschrieben von Viruslegion, 25.03.2016 at 15:34

Geschrieben von Waffel, 25.03.2016 at 15:26

Geschrieben von Viruslegion, 25.03.2016 at 15:23

Geschrieben von Waffel, 25.03.2016 at 04:08

Geschrieben von Viruslegion, 24.03.2016 at 19:36

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Geschrieben von Viruslegion, 24.03.2016 at 18:06






Founded on hatred and violence? Please explain yourself on that?

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."
Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."
Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."
Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."
Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"
Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."
Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His cause"

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

- Quran (2:243) - Have you..... And Allah is full of bounty to the people, but most of the people do not show gratitude. > 2:244 is a continuation on that.
- Quran (2:244) - ''And fight in the cause of Allah and know that Allah is Hearing and Knowing.''



Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

- Quran (3:55) - ''[Mention] when Allah said, "O Jesus, indeed I will take you and raise you to Myself and purify you from those who disbelieve and make those who follow you [in submission to Allah alone] superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, and I will judge between you concerning that in which you used to differ.''
- Quran (3:56) - ''And as for those who disbelieved, I will punish them with a severe punishment in this world and the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers."''
- Quran (3:57) - ''But as for those who believed and did righteous deeds, He will give them in full their rewards, and Allah does not like the wrongdoers.''


Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

- Quran (4:75) - ''And what is [the matter] with you that you fight not in the cause of Allah and [for] the oppressed among men, women, and children who say, "Our Lord, take us out of this city of oppressive people and appoint for us from Yourself a protector and appoint for us from Yourself a helper?"''
- Quran (4:76) - ''Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah , and those who disbelieve fight in the cause of Taghut. So fight against the allies of Satan. Indeed, the plot of Satan has ever been weak.''
- Quran (4:77) - ''Have you not seen those who were told, "Restrain your hands [from fighting] and establish prayer and give zakah"? But then when fighting was ordained for them, at once a party of them feared men as they fear Allah or with [even] greater fear. They said, "Our Lord, why have You decreed upon us fighting? If only You had postponed [it for] us for a short time." Say, The enjoyment of this world is little, and the Hereafter is better for he who fears Allah . And injustice will not be done to you, [even] as much as a thread [inside a date seed]."''


This was actually the first time ever in my life, that I opened a holy book, and guess what I found? The real things that stood in there. It shows clearly that you just copied and pasted those examples from some site that is taking the Quran out of proportion and just putting the only the things without the things said before and after that makes them a whole. Ive heard from enough sources that the Bible and the Quran don't have that much differences about what is written in them, only difference is the muslims call their god allah and in the bible they speak of God. So if you say the Quran supports terrorism, you basically say so does the Bible, but I dont hear anyone of you guys complaining about that?

If you want to make a forum like this, or put a religion like this in badspotlight, which is your free right to do, then please, make sure that you atleast use the right sources.... It took me like 10 minutes to actually find the right verses, and it makes sense. I for one do not like all these he she nonsense so its not something for me, but people are different and the one believes in it and the other doesnt. Let them be.

As for the others I didn't want to waste my whole day on searching for the good verses, but I think you got the point?

And viruslegion, we dont really know eachother and barely talk, but I know you agree on alot of things with me (I think) bcs you mostly upvote me (which i think is agreeing, correct me if im wrong) so its safe to say we have some of the same mindset. Think about that too .
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25.03.2016 - 16:04
Geschrieben von Al Fappino, 25.03.2016 at 15:34

Geschrieben von Waffel, 25.03.2016 at 14:51

Geschrieben von Al Fappino, 25.03.2016 at 14:34

I'm gonna get bashed around right now but I'd actually support either a massive bombing campaign on ISIS territory combined with an alliance of the International Coalition with Assad or an alliance with Assad and troops from NATO/EU-USA on the ground. We're not gonna stop this with deporting and bombing, and EU continuosly accepting immigrants as they're doing isnt the way either.

You want an alliance with Assad!? He is one of the problems why IS is this powerfull and why all those refugees run away and get killed. He kills his own civilians....

Dude...



Sometimes it is better to let the Dictators stay and (temporarily) ally with them, besides, he does has a point he's showed in past interviews, How could he be in power if people he has under control (territorially) dont support him?

And he hasn't been the direct cause to the rise of ISIS in Syria, the Civil War has.

It was acq who told me about this subject for a school project,

Search ''Sarin gas'' on internet, this is what Assad is doing to the people in Syria, do you mind if those people are not under his control if they get attacked like this? Because I think any reasonable person would do the same?
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Ily waff but I think you're dead wrong on this so don't bring me into it!
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Geschrieben von Acquiesce, 25.03.2016 at 16:23

Ily waff but I think you're dead wrong on this so don't bring me into it!

I did not, only mentioned the saringas, you can stay out of it if you want lol. Aint asking you anything to do
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Geschrieben von Khal.eesi, 25.03.2016 at 15:16

USA's muslim pop are 5 million whilst Europes is 40 and predicted to double over the next 10 years, what are you comparing?


Why categorizing them? Answer is to suit your agenda.

Immigrant is immigrant, no matter if mexican or arab.

Geschrieben von Khal.eesi, 25.03.2016 at 15:16

Moreso Russian calling Europe incapable and flawed, thats rich, when Russia cant provide to its own citizens the standard of living Europe provides for its immigrants.


That is misinformation. Russians have only 5% unemployed, EU have how much? 10-20%?

Also how is EU providing its citizens? By banning them to trade on one of the biggest markets in the World - Russia. Europeans are banned to sell their goods to Russia, and Russia is known to but everything without asking for price. Russia was making Europe rich, now Europeans protest daily at their governments and destroy their products.

So Russia create jobs for Russians, build homes, roads, electricity, clean water but 'russia is not providing'. While Europe is oppressing its citizens.. this is gold

Geschrieben von Khal.eesi, 25.03.2016 at 15:16

Moreso, Russia cant even guarantee the protection of the freedoms and rights of its own citizens, thus one can only imagine the treatment of the minorities.


Well, Tatarstan made motto 'business and pleasure'. Its in top income by regions. And they are minority. Chechnya develop 10% a year, and they are minority.

I always find it funny how misinformed some people are. But lets talk about Europe, how they treat their minorities: Lusitanian Serbs still don't have their state, not even autonomous region, Rusyns no state, no recognition, ignored by Europe. Spain oppressing Catalonians, England oppressing Scots, Welsh and Irish, Italy oppressing Veneto, Bulgaria kicking Bulgarian Turks. Albania assimilating Greek christians.

And the only country with true European political values: Serbia - Northern Serbia officially recognize Hungarian, Czech, Slovakian, Rusyn and Croatian languages as equal to Serbia, Serbian Government fund their TV stations on minority languages, their schools and newspapers, their cultural happenings. They are also exluded from military draft in case of war. Northern Serbia is autonomous region with its own government and Serbian constitution ban serbian government to interfere in their issues.

And you know what's funny: Italy, England, Spain and Bulgaria are in NATO, EU and OECD as 'developed country, mature democracies' while Serbia isn't. And Serbia is the role model for European Union haha

wikipedia/tatarstan
wikipedia/bashkortostan
wikipedia/languages_of_russia
wikipedia/ethnic_groups_in_russia
wikipedia/vojvodina
google/slovakian_president_says_northern_serbia_role_model_for_eu
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Islam is a dirty, filthy religion. The only way to stop extremists like ISIS and Boko Haram is to end Islam itself. Islam is not compatible with democracy, Muslims just cannot fit in Western society.

May God bless Europe and Israel, and curse be upon the Muslim filth that cause chaos on innocent people around the world.
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Geschrieben von Trinitas, 25.03.2016 at 17:04

Islam is a dirty, filthy religion. The only way to stop extremists like ISIS and Boko Haram is to end Islam itself. Islam is not compatible with democracy, Muslims just cannot fit in Western society.

May God bless Europe and Israel, and curse be upon the Muslim filth that cause chaos on innocent people around the world.


>bless Israel

oh you sheep, you poor, poor sheep...
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Ive heard from enough sources that the Bible and the Quran don't have that much differences about what is written in them, only difference is the muslims call their god allah and in the bible they speak of God. So if you say the Quran supports terrorism, you basically say so does the Bible, but I dont hear anyone of you guys complaining about that?

You should check your sources, because they don't know what they're talking about, any violent passages in the bible will be found in the Old Testament, Christians don't believe the Old Testament is supposed to be taken literally, i.e. we don't literally believe the story of Noah's Ark or the Tower of Babel, they're just supposed to teach a lesson, only the jews are supposed to take the Old Testament literally

Look throughout the New Testament, the part thats supposed to be taken literally, except revelations, and you won't find any passages inciting or encouraging violence, quite the opposite, actually
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Geschrieben von Trinitas, 25.03.2016 at 17:04

Islam is a dirty, filthy religion. The only way to stop extremists like ISIS and Boko Haram is to end Islam itself. Islam is not compatible with democracy, Muslims just cannot fit in Western society.

May God bless Europe and Israel, and curse be upon the Muslim filth that cause chaos on innocent people around the world.

I wonder why would you insult people's believes? I mean there are alot of things I dont like about the Islam either, but disrespecting people believes is disgusting. I barely ever read on social media or even in AW how the muslims call christians nasty or disgusting or names, yet I see daily when I am online atleast more then 5 times fuck islam or fuck arabs or fuck kebabs, or something in that way.

What is the point of saying these things?
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Geschrieben von Waffel, 25.03.2016 at 17:20

Geschrieben von Trinitas, 25.03.2016 at 17:04

Islam is a dirty, filthy religion. The only way to stop extremists like ISIS and Boko Haram is to end Islam itself. Islam is not compatible with democracy, Muslims just cannot fit in Western society.

May God bless Europe and Israel, and curse be upon the Muslim filth that cause chaos on innocent people around the world.

I wonder why would you insult people's believes? I mean there are alot of things I dont like about the Islam either, but disrespecting people believes is disgusting. I barely ever read on social media or even in AW how the muslims call christians nasty or disgusting or names, yet I see daily when I am online atleast more then 5 times fuck islam or fuck arabs or fuck kebabs, or something in that way.

What is the point of saying these things?


Please don't be a social justice warrior. In Islam they teach that Christians and Jews are the enemy, your proof is the persecution of non Muslims in countries that are Muslim majority. Why are these terrorists ALWAYS MUSLIM? Islam is the sole reason for these terrorist groups. Destroying ISIS won't end terrorism, a new Islamic group will just emerge again. I was watching a documentary about Saudi Arabia and I took this picture of what a little Saudi boy said he was taught in school:


The only reason Islamphobia exists mainly online is because if you speak out against Islam in public you're just automatically labelled as a ''Nazi''. This game is filled with fucking Arabs and Muslims anyway so it's no surprise there's a bunch of people defending Islam.

In the end Islam is just a stupid religion that copied Christianity and twisted it into something evil and dark.
Fuck Islam.
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Geschrieben von Waffel, 25.03.2016 at 15:26

Founded on hatred and violence? Please explain yourself on that?


A schizophrenic mental case, named Muhammad started hearing voices. He thought he was crazy and became suicidal but his wife and friends convinced him he was a phrophet of god. Thus he began preaching in Mecca until he was kicked out to Medina. Then he gathered army in the name of Allah and started robbing merchant caravans, even killing people in the process. His numbers were growing because he was making good money so he started attacking everybody and conquering cities, making up verses of the Quran as he went along in his "spiritual" journey of rape and murder ( when his soldiers got very horny, god appeared and allowed him and his soldiers to have sex with any woman they want and have sex slaves, age or status being irrelevant). God (Allah) even told him in his sleep to go fuck a 6 year old, Aisha. Thank god (irony) he just flirted with her and waited till she was 9 to rape her.

After his death, his legacy of peace and tolerance continued, conquering all the way to Spain and central Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Muslim_conquests
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spread_of_Islam


Geschrieben von Waffel, 25.03.2016 at 14:51

You want an alliance with Assad!? He is one of the problems why IS is this powerfull and why all those refugees run away and get killed. He kills his own civilians....
Dude...


Assad's regime (Secular Syrian government) and Kurds (secular, democratic) are the only ones fighting Isis, in actual hand to hand combat, you make no sense. Also everybody in the Middle East kills or abuse in different ways his own civilians, where do you live. From Iraq, to Afghanistan, to Pakistan, to Libya and Saudi and so on.

Geschrieben von Waffel, 25.03.2016 at 14:49

but not for ''not western''
countries like Turkey, your NEIGHBOUR country, which happened to be attacked twice in a row, a couple of days before the attacks in Belgium, but did anyone shed a tear for that? No.


Same Turkey that has Isis 1 mile away from their Southern Syria border where Kurds defend Kobain and sits doing nothing? Same Turkey that shoots Russian fighter on its way to bomb Isis? Same Turkey that buys Isis oil and invaded Iraq to secure its illegal oil route? Same Turkey that genocides Christian Kurds for decades? Wheres your tears by the way for the poor Kurds?


As i said waffy, you have alot of reading to do, such a simplistic and limited view of the world you have. Now stop it about the innocent peacefull religion before i hit you with a hundred pew and other polls & statistics!

p.s. dont bring christianity in a discussion like this. nobody defends christianity, because nobody cares. Christianity stoped being relevant after the Enlightenment and has no power to dictate norms or laws anymore.
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Geschrieben von Trinitas, 25.03.2016 at 17:34

Geschrieben von Waffel, 25.03.2016 at 17:20

Geschrieben von Trinitas, 25.03.2016 at 17:04

Islam is a dirty, filthy religion. The only way to stop extremists like ISIS and Boko Haram is to end Islam itself. Islam is not compatible with democracy, Muslims just cannot fit in Western society.

May God bless Europe and Israel, and curse be upon the Muslim filth that cause chaos on innocent people around the world.

I wonder why would you insult people's believes? I mean there are alot of things I dont like about the Islam either, but disrespecting people believes is disgusting. I barely ever read on social media or even in AW how the muslims call christians nasty or disgusting or names, yet I see daily when I am online atleast more then 5 times fuck islam or fuck arabs or fuck kebabs, or something in that way.

What is the point of saying these things?


Please don't be a social justice warrior. In Islam they teach that Christians and Jews are the enemy, your proof is the persecution of non Muslims in countries that are Muslim majority. Why are these terrorists ALWAYS MUSLIM? Islam is the sole reason for these terrorist groups. Destroying ISIS won't end terrorism, a new Islamic group will just emerge again. I was watching a documentary about Saudi Arabia and I took this picture of what a little Saudi boy said he was taught in school:


The only reason Islamphobia exists mainly online is because if you speak out against Islam in public you're just automatically labelled as a ''Nazi''. This game is filled with fucking Arabs and Muslims anyway so it's no surprise there's a bunch of people defending Islam.

In the end Islam is just a stupid religion that copied Christianity and twisted it into something evil and dark.
Fuck Islam.

I mean I get your way of looking into it, but the reason that all ''terrorists are ALWAYS muslims'' to hate Islam is I think a bit of a lowblow.

I wonder if it is the media that created the image, or selfexperience? Because if I believed everything the media said without a little bit thinking, I would probably act the same. But it is wrong to hold a whole religion / group of people responsible for terrorists attacks? I mean (yes here I begin again... I am getting tired of it tbh) do you get hold responsible for what KKK did in the past and still does to afro-american people? I hope you do not, because it shouldn't be, nobody should be getting held responsible for the actions of others, and this is exactly what the muslims are trying to say too.

Example,

if a sick bastard wants to cause harm or wants media attention, all he has to do now is to kill someone or more people and shout out ''ALLAHU AKBAR'' doesn't matter if he is white/black/chinese/purple/orange/whatever. Because people like you will still think it is a muslim and the media will probably call it a muslim too and this is how those things get created. This is happening for years now and the results is now the hate towards muslims daily.

And if you just speak out against islam with reasonable arguements instead of fuck islam and kill all muslims, i believe people will be happy to discuss/talk with you about it. Afterall people can believe in what they want, but there is no hate spreading needed anymore than there is already in this world now.

I simply dont even know why I am bothered. I guess I just want to live longer instead of fighting in war in my early 20's when life is just about to happen.
Because the americans perhaps wont be affected by a worldwar between muslims and world, but me, and I think the rest of europe and middle east will be.
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Geschrieben von Waffel, 25.03.2016 at 17:50

Geschrieben von Trinitas, 25.03.2016 at 17:34

Geschrieben von Waffel, 25.03.2016 at 17:20

Geschrieben von Trinitas, 25.03.2016 at 17:04

Islam is a dirty, filthy religion. The only way to stop extremists like ISIS and Boko Haram is to end Islam itself. Islam is not compatible with democracy, Muslims just cannot fit in Western society.

May God bless Europe and Israel, and curse be upon the Muslim filth that cause chaos on innocent people around the world.

I wonder why would you insult people's believes? I mean there are alot of things I dont like about the Islam either, but disrespecting people believes is disgusting. I barely ever read on social media or even in AW how the muslims call christians nasty or disgusting or names, yet I see daily when I am online atleast more then 5 times fuck islam or fuck arabs or fuck kebabs, or something in that way.

What is the point of saying these things?


Please don't be a social justice warrior. In Islam they teach that Christians and Jews are the enemy, your proof is the persecution of non Muslims in countries that are Muslim majority. Why are these terrorists ALWAYS MUSLIM? Islam is the sole reason for these terrorist groups. Destroying ISIS won't end terrorism, a new Islamic group will just emerge again. I was watching a documentary about Saudi Arabia and I took this picture of what a little Saudi boy said he was taught in school:


The only reason Islamphobia exists mainly online is because if you speak out against Islam in public you're just automatically labelled as a ''Nazi''. This game is filled with fucking Arabs and Muslims anyway so it's no surprise there's a bunch of people defending Islam.

In the end Islam is just a stupid religion that copied Christianity and twisted it into something evil and dark.
Fuck Islam.

I mean I get your way of looking into it, but the reason that all ''terrorists are ALWAYS muslims'' to hate Islam is I think a bit of a lowblow.

I wonder if it is the media that created the image, or selfexperience? Because if I believed everything the media said without a little bit thinking, I would probably act the same. But it is wrong to hold a whole religion / group of people responsible for terrorists attacks? I mean (yes here I begin again... I am getting tired of it tbh) do you get hold responsible for what KKK did in the past and still does to afro-american people? I hope you do not, because it shouldn't be, nobody should be getting held responsible for the actions of others, and this is exactly what the muslims are trying to say too.

Example,

if a sick bastard wants to cause harm or wants media attention, all he has to do now is to kill someone or more people and shout out ''ALLAHU AKBAR'' doesn't matter if he is white/black/chinese/purple/orange/whatever. Because people like you will still think it is a muslim and the media will probably call it a muslim too and this is how those things get created. This is happening for years now and the results is now the hate towards muslims daily.

And if you just speak out against islam with reasonable arguements instead of fuck islam and kill all muslims, i believe people will be happy to discuss/talk with you about it. Afterall people can believe in what they want, but there is no hate spreading needed anymore than there is already in this world now.

I simply dont even know why I am bothered. I guess I just want to live longer instead of fighting in war in my early 20's when life is just about to happen.
Because the americans perhaps wont be affected by a worldwar between muslims and world, but me, and I think the rest of europe and middle east will be.

Alright listen. There are many differences between an Islamic extremist group killing people and the KKK.
For starters, the KKK wasn't a religious movement. They were a white supremacist group that hated African Americans. I know they claimed to be Christians, but they couldn't back up their action from ANYWHERE in the Bible.

Now lets look at ISIS and other Islamic terrorist groups. They're a RELIGIOUS group, they don't fight for Arab supremacy or whatever, they fight for their god, allah. They back up their violence from their book, the Koran. Their prophet, Muhammad, was a warrior. Islam spread throughout the Middle East because of violent conquests, it's part of Islam. In the Koran it talks about killing the infidels and spreading Islam and sharia law world wide. The creator of ISIS even had a PhD in Islam. Osama Bin Laden went to bloody University, these guys were just putting the Koran into action. It's true, the Koran has some good parts, but they also have bad parts, and when interpretated literally, you get all these terrorist groups.

That's the difference between a murderer and an Islamic extremist group. These terrorists back up their actions because of the Koran. People like the KKK are not similar as there is nothing in the Bible that justifies killing people for Christianity or white supremacy.
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Geschrieben von Waffel, 25.03.2016 at 15:26

Founded on hatred and violence? Please explain yourself on that?


A schizophrenic mental case, named Muhammad started hearing voices. He thought he was crazy and became suicidal but his wife and friends convinced him he was a phrophet of god. Thus he began preaching in Mecca until he was kicked out to Medina. Then he gathered army in the name of Allah and started robbing merchant caravans, even killing people in the process. His numbers were growing because he was making good money so he started attacking everybody and conquering cities, making up verses of the Quran as he went along in his "spiritual" journey of rape and murder ( when his soldiers got very horny, god appeared and allowed him and his soldiers to have sex with any woman they want and have sex slaves, age or status being irrelevant). God (Allah) even told him in his sleep to go fuck a 6 year old, Aisha. Thank god (irony) he just flirted with her and waited till she was 9 to rape her.

After his death, his legacy of peace and tolerance continued, conquering all the way to Spain and central Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Muslim_conquests
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spread_of_Islam


Geschrieben von Waffel, 25.03.2016 at 14:51

You want an alliance with Assad!? He is one of the problems why IS is this powerfull and why all those refugees run away and get killed. He kills his own civilians....
Dude...


Assad's regime (Secular Syrian government) and Kurds (secular, democratic) are the only ones fighting Isis, in actual hand to hand combat, you make no sense. Also everybody in the Middle East kills or abuse in different ways his own civilians, where do you live. From Iraq, to Afghanistan, to Pakistan, to Libya and Saudi and so on.

Geschrieben von Waffel, 25.03.2016 at 14:49

but not for ''not western''
countries like Turkey, your NEIGHBOUR country, which happened to be attacked twice in a row, a couple of days before the attacks in Belgium, but did anyone shed a tear for that? No.


Same Turkey that has Isis 1 mile away from their Southern Syria border where Kurds defend Kobain and sits doing nothing? Same Turkey that shoots Russian fighter on its way to bomb Isis? Same Turkey that buys Isis oil and invaded Iraq to secure its illegal oil route? Same Turkey that genocides Christian Kurds for decades? Wheres your tears by the way for the poor Kurds?


As i said waffy, you have alot of reading to do, such a simplistic and limited view of the world you have. Now stop it about the innocent peacefull religion before i hit you with a hundred pew and other polls & statistics.

Well to be honest, I would be more happy with the statistics and actually relyable sources, but in 2016 its hard to actually decide what is the truth and what isnt when we werent there ourself decades ago. You make good points khal, but like I said in my first post, also counts towards you. You are greek, you hate turkey, ofcourse you say these things against the turks. And it is funny that you come with the exact same ''arguments'' as all of those anti-islam people come with. Is there a website for meeting like that or something? Because ive read this plenty of times.

Now let me start about the history of Constantinopel. I am sure that you know about the history of it and know that it belonged to Greece. The turks have conquored the city and it is now one of the most famous cities in turkey and the world, being the city that lays between 2 continents.
The war in turkey between kurds and turks are because of (idk if its safe to say) the same reasons you dislike turkey and most greeks do because of the history.

In turkey the kurds want to claim ''their'' land and country ''kurdistan'' I mean you out of all people should know how it feels when they take land from your country and claim it to be theirs. You are raised to hate Turkey because of the strong history between Greece and Turkey, I understand that, but what you seem to not understand is that PKK is also a terrorist group, which killed alot of people in turkey, but you dont seem to care about turkish lifes obviously. Which is one of the reasons we have this whole divided cultures in the world. Everyone is raised somehow directly or indirectly to hate/or look out for some specific group. I think it is sick, but on the otherhand its not their fault, its the fault of the past generation, and the generation before that and before that.

People will never be happy and always start wars where they can and when they want.

Anyways i've had enough for today i am logging off, ill probably see the notifications over a couple of days and probably wont respond anymore since no time or simply dont want to spent my energy for it anymore.

Have a goodnight.
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Geschrieben von Waffel, 25.03.2016 at 18:06

Have a goodnight.


You are so qute. I will defend the right to watch gossip girl for both of us, dont worry. Sleep tight
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