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Verfasst von Aetius, 22.08.2016 - 10:29
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Ok I am officially ending the game, sorry that there will be no Grand Finale. None of the Triumvirs except Sertorius wanted civil war. However, the other two guys got absurdly angry at me. One has even blocked me, and imo has begun to take this game way too personally. I don't want to lose friends over a forum game, this is literally the only reason why I am now stopping. Also, a good lesson as to why you keep IC and OOC separate. ....Although in a way I see it as a success I got people to be this emotionally invested in a forum game

gg all, let us now remember the great legends of the roman families

Triumvir Families - these 3 have reached the apex of power, although shared
Gens Sertorii
The Sertorii are an old and powerful family that has been influential in politics and later on in war against the Numidians, Parthians and were regarded as superior naval commanders. They have had 6 consulships, numerous prosecutions, and were always a controlling force behind the populares movement. In the late republic Flavius became the most influential, and arguably strongest of the 3 triumvirs as ruler of the west.

Gens Maria
The Marians are a very old family that was highly regarded for their religious positions. Over the course of roman history they have held a stunning 7 consulships and 1 dictatorship. Much of marian history has been military oriented, known for defeating the Seleucids at Magnesia in early times. In the mid republic they were leaders of the populare movement but were assassinated when political tensions rose, temporarily weakening the family allowing the Sertorii to take control of the party. Later, the ambitious Gaius Marius Maximus became the youngest ever dictator defeating the Socii revolt, and after defeating the massive pontic forces in Greece declared the revolt against the corrupt senate with the aid of Sertori and and Rexians. After Quintus Sertorius died however the rivalry between his son Flavius and Gaius Marius Maximus became more pronounced as they were the two ambitious leaders of the populares and resented each other.

Gens Rexii
The Rexii have consistently been a presence in roman politics, having held 6 consulships and countless other positions. The Rexii are regarded as extremely skilled politicians having risen from former disgrace to great influence and wealth as a founding member of the populares. The Rexii do have a reputation of being greedy, yet their wealth bought them power that can now no longer be denied as rulers of the eastern provinces.


Winning Families- these families picked the right side and successfully navigated the roman game of thrones to high positions of power

Gens Flavii
Of all the families in Rome, the Flavii are the most well regarded among wealthy equites. Long ago this was not the case, but following the downfall of the Numetorii, the Flavii inherited much of the wealth of the Ripam Alexandrie and begun their own steady rise to 2 consulships and numerous censorships and praetorships. Aligning with the populares the Flavii became the political centerpiece of the movement as they secured such influence among the equite class that their power in the senate became overwhelming. Ever after they were given the surname of Cato, meaning wise. And wise they have been, supporting the right side becoming rich and powerful.

Gens Nipii
The Nipii emerged from obscurity in the punic wars, being used as master of horse for less competent dictators. However, in the end they secured their own command becoming heroes of the republic after defeating Hannibal at Cannae. This fame was long lasting but in the mid republic their fortunes began to dwindle as legions loyal to the Nipii were destroyed in the numerous wars. A founding member of the populares, the Nipii have been loyal partisans and this has kept them from sinking lower. Decius began to reverse these fortunes as being part of the battle of Rome and then following Sertorius into the west becoming his heir. The Nipii may rise once again…

Gens Octavii
A wealthy and influential political family, the Octavii were strong allies of the sertorii, and they aided each other's rise. The Octavii had numerous connections throughout the city of Rome among the equites, and were commonly the Praetor, but also have secured Consulship twice in history as well as governorships in cisalpine gaul. The Octavii carefully maneuvered the dangerous political battlefield, never have been assassinated, always working from within the shadows to emerge on top.

Gens Marcii
The family history of the Marcii is a winding but tragic one as well. Over the course of history they have influential, holding 4 consulships and their most famous moment was commanding the sack of Carthage, however Africanus fell to a plague and was later utterly disgraced by being implicated in treasonous plot with the Antonines. Rising from this misfortune they switched parties to the Populares and became a decisive element in the civil war by granting support in return for rule over the Asian provinces. But once again, the head of the family died, this time in battle, reducing the family to mediocrity.

Gens Paulli
The Paulli are a notoriously wealthy but also greedy roman family. They rose to power after falling out with Potestatem party by making deals with the Populares to rule wealthy provinces as long as they turned a blind eye to their corruption. Amassing huge sums, the Paulli were never in Rome for most of their history. But this is not to say they are without merit, for they helped bring roman civilization to cisalpine gaul, and were large bankrollers of the populare movement. In the civil war they grew more ambitious seeking military commands as admirals and growing closer to the Sertorian faction.

At least I am still part of the wealthy 1% Tier
Gens Numetorii
A once more powerful family in the early republic and leader of the notable third party, ripam alexandrie, the untimely death of the head of the family ended this movement. Later on, the Numetorii aligned themselves with Potestatem, but their high status was degraded by being on the losing side of the civil war. The Numetorii have held 4 Consulships, numerous other political positions and were known as saviors of Rome from the Germans and victors against the notorious Viriathus in their brightest moment.

Gens Caetronii
The Caetronii have always been defenders of the roman state, military leaders, above political factionalism. Over the course of history they have held 5 consulships and 1 dictatorship. The Caetronii were known as victors over gauls in early times, but were most influential in the mid republic reaching an apex under Lucius who defeated the Spanish revolts as well as the pirates, guiding Rome through a turbulent political time as a neutral player. In the late republic their fortunes fell as Lucius grew old and his heirs could not defend the republic from the populares. Even so, the Caetronii are a continuing strong presence in the roman state.


At least I am not dead Tier
Gens Cornelli Scipiones
An old and active family, their fortunes rose to supreme heights in the early republic as conquers of Illyria and climaxed with their 1 consulship. Later though they were politically destroyed by the Populares and then fell into obscurity, and when Gnaeus began to rise he was struck down by plague. In the late republic Metellus was known as the most stalwart defender of the senate and fought until the last at Africa.

Gens Varii
From plebian origins, the Varii rose from the lower classes to the senate with the support of the Potestatem party (by giving them huge sums of money). The Varii reached their apex in a consulship with the Numetorii, after defeating a huge german horde in pannonia. After this moment of glory they began to fade as their wealth dried up and the Potestatem lost political power. After the battle of rome they surrendered to the populares but despite this were still executed due to hatred against them from the Marians. Even so, the Varii have not been utterly destroyed as the family still lives on as their recent son has been spared by the now more merciful populare senate due to the passage of time.

Gens Pedii
Plebians like the Varii, the Pedii rose to political relevance in a dangerous political era. With civil war imminent, they were thrust into hard decisions. A marriage alliance almost occurred with the Rexii potentially earning the favor of the populares but this ultimately broken down and the Pedii backed the Senate to their ultimate doom. Despite donating their entire fortune to the senatorial cause, this was not enough as the senatorial forces failed three times in battle. Escaping from the populare onslaught as governer of narbonese Gaul, the Pedii were finally captured after the Senatorial defeat in Africa and exiled.

Losers - families fallen from power, or traitors, or extinct
Gens Antonia, Gens Phoenicii, Gens Maximii , other people who have dropped out

03.10.2016 - 22:49
 JF.
All elections 1.

Concessions - Resting Lime
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03.10.2016 - 23:16
SPECIAL DICTATOR VOTE
1) Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu)

Consul Vote (due to low population, the winning consul may pick his co-consul)
1) Publius Numertorius (JF) +?

Censor Vote (optional due to low population)
1)Marcus Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Pontifex Maximus Vote (optional due to low population)
2)Junius Damasippus (Resting Lime)

PROPOSALS

Force Deployments
1)All Legions and Fleets to Africa

In the event this passes and Dictator doesn't get voted in I'll flee with it to Africa
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03.10.2016 - 23:23
 Witch-Doctor (Mod)
I thought they had evil omen, how did any of them get equites.
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03.10.2016 - 23:32
Death1816 as my Master of Horse
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"Another such victory and I come back to Epirus alone" - Pyrrhus of Epirus
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03.10.2016 - 23:39
Geschrieben von Pyrrhus, 03.10.2016 at 23:32

Death1816 as my Master of Horse

murderous Marius, you are a bloodthirsty tyrant!
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03.10.2016 - 23:41
SPECIAL DICTATOR VOTE
1) Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu)

Consul Vote (due to low population, the winning consul may pick his co-consul)
1) Publius Numertorius (JF) +?

Censor Vote (optional due to low population)
1)Marcus Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Pontifex Maximus Vote (optional due to low population)
2)Junius Damasippus (Resting Lime)
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I demolish my bridges behind me...then there is no choice but to move forward

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04.10.2016 - 00:21
Geschrieben von Tundy, 03.10.2016 at 23:39

Geschrieben von Pyrrhus, 03.10.2016 at 23:32

Death1816 as my Master of Horse

murderous Marius, you are a bloodthirsty tyrant!

First of all, he's not.
Second of all, being a revolutionary doesn't mean he doesn't get a Master of Horse. You didn't honestly think that just because you had a dictator and Master of horse, we couldn't appoint one?
Should have appointed one when Mr Army had +1 military skill bonus...
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04.10.2016 - 02:19
Vote along faction lines.
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04.10.2016 - 09:17
Wtf why aren't we levying anything?

Dictator: 1
Consul: 2
Censor: 1
Pointifex Maximus: 1
Force Deployment: 1 and will follow the army
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04.10.2016 - 11:49
This is the most retarded senate phase the game has seen so far, by far. Whoever came up with it should feel ashamed.
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04.10.2016 - 11:52
 Witch-Doctor (Mod)
Geschrieben von Zephyrusu, 04.10.2016 at 11:49

This is the most retarded senate phase the game has seen so far, by far. Whoever came up with it should feel ashamed.


The senate are doing the equivalent of bending over, unzipping their trousers, and pulling it down.
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04.10.2016 - 11:54
K voting is over, control of everything other than the elections is now under Zeph's command as dictator, will update when he decides what to do.
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04.10.2016 - 12:06
Geschrieben von Zephyrusu, 04.10.2016 at 11:49

This is the most retarded senate phase the game has seen so far, by far. Whoever came up with it should feel ashamed.

Tunder did I think. Lol
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04.10.2016 - 12:39
Geschrieben von Zephyrusu, 04.10.2016 at 09:17

Wtf why aren't we levying anything?

Dictator: 1
Consul: 2
Censor: 1
Pointifex Maximus: 1
Force Deployment: 1 and will follow the army


Because we wont have enough money for upkeep once we are in africa
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04.10.2016 - 13:06
 JF.
Geschrieben von Tundy, 04.10.2016 at 12:39

Geschrieben von Zephyrusu, 04.10.2016 at 09:17

Wtf why aren't we levying anything?

Dictator: 1
Consul: 2
Censor: 1
Pointifex Maximus: 1
Force Deployment: 1 and will follow the army


Because we wont have enough money for upkeep once we are in africa


We are not going Africa
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04.10.2016 - 13:08
Geschrieben von JF., 04.10.2016 at 13:06

Geschrieben von Tundy, 04.10.2016 at 12:39

Geschrieben von Zephyrusu, 04.10.2016 at 09:17

Wtf why aren't we levying anything?

Dictator: 1
Consul: 2
Censor: 1
Pointifex Maximus: 1
Force Deployment: 1 and will follow the army


Because we wont have enough money for upkeep once we are in africa


We are not going Africa


Then you may aswell commit suicide right now and allow the legionnaries to live.
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04.10.2016 - 13:11
 JF.
Geschrieben von Tundy, 04.10.2016 at 13:08

Geschrieben von JF., 04.10.2016 at 13:06

Geschrieben von Tundy, 04.10.2016 at 12:39

Geschrieben von Zephyrusu, 04.10.2016 at 09:17

Wtf why aren't we levying anything?

Dictator: 1
Consul: 2
Censor: 1
Pointifex Maximus: 1
Force Deployment: 1 and will follow the army


Because we wont have enough money for upkeep once we are in africa


We are not going Africa


Then you may aswell commit suicide right now and allow the legionnaries to live.


Have you seen the state of this turn....

Your plan is a fail.

No land bills. full treasury. If we were to go with it it would be gg.
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04.10.2016 - 13:54
You guys done with your turn? Aetius update pl0x
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04.10.2016 - 14:02
Geschrieben von JF., 04.10.2016 at 13:11

Geschrieben von Tundy, 04.10.2016 at 13:08

Geschrieben von JF., 04.10.2016 at 13:06

Geschrieben von Tundy, 04.10.2016 at 12:39

Geschrieben von Zephyrusu, 04.10.2016 at 09:17

Wtf why aren't we levying anything?

Dictator: 1
Consul: 2
Censor: 1
Pointifex Maximus: 1
Force Deployment: 1 and will follow the army


Because we wont have enough money for upkeep once we are in africa


We are not going Africa


Then you may aswell commit suicide right now and allow the legionnaries to live.


Have you seen the state of this turn....

Your plan is a fail.

No land bills. full treasury. If we were to go with it it would be gg.


Zephy was made dictator in order to add the landbills and games that MrArmy failed to implement (as I planned), because we have no way to keep Rome or our rich provinces since the enemy took Asia which was not garrisoned with our fleet(as I planned) and the enemy marched up into italy (as my plan anticipated) which was empty of auxiliary because Lebinius was not put to death (as I demanded) and our economy sucks because you guys didnt repel any of the landbills (as i suggested) and thus being unable to give battle our only hope is africa which is not developed nor has auxiliary (as I planned) thus I can't be blamed for other people's stupidity since my plan was given to the senate the first day of the rebellion.

After 23 turns of Postatem having full control of the anti-populares forces, is crystal clear that your methods arent working and will never work. Yet your methods havent changed not even a inch from what they were prior to the civil war.

Now that for the first time in the entire game my wishes have been -halfly- meet: you guys make it sound as if it was my fault that the republic has to take such desesperated choices.
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04.10.2016 - 14:04
==Turn 23: Phase 3 has begun==
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04.10.2016 - 14:13
 JF.
Geschrieben von Tundy, 04.10.2016 at 14:02



I never said that but if u want to talk about faults and you are a saint?



I don't trust you as far as i can throw a stone. you're out of the faction. These guys wish to follow your ideas so be it. I'll be staying in rome and not running like a coward.
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04.10.2016 - 14:16
 JF.
And 10 fleets to greece gg our navy.
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04.10.2016 - 14:20
Geschrieben von JF., 04.10.2016 at 14:13

Geschrieben von Tundy, 04.10.2016 at 14:02



I never said that but if u want to talk about faults and you are a saint?



I don't trust you as far as i can throw a stone. you're out of the faction. These guys wish to follow your ideas so be it. I'll be staying in rome and not running like a coward.


Your neutral party was on my way, i needed to unify people against Populares to prevent their rebellion from happening. To my dismise the postatem party was 10 times more cuckolded.

Now optimates is blinded with suicidal death charges because that is the only way you guys know how to respond.
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04.10.2016 - 14:22
 JF.
Geschrieben von Tundy, 04.10.2016 at 14:20



look how that shit plan worked out and you made populares stronger. Now this plan will fail.

And what about all the other killings. You're just a snake with bad intentions.
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04.10.2016 - 14:24
I feel genuinly bad for those who joined this game with no prior knowledge of Tunder being a snake
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04.10.2016 - 14:29
Geschrieben von JF., 04.10.2016 at 14:16

And 10 fleets to greece gg our navy.


Actually its 17 vs our 15, the battle is exactly equal with evil omens
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04.10.2016 - 14:47
Governor-Triumvir Caspiel Rex Tertius walks onto the podium in the crowded magnificent Amphitheater constructed on a small hill with a panoramic view of the Grecian Harbour. He swallowed nervously at seeing the massive throngs of crowds, wondering how his father gave such public speeches so eloquently.



"People of the True Republic,
You may have heard the rumors that the fleets and legions of the file Senate sail to give battle. That they seek our destruction. Those rumors are true."


Murmurs spread through the crowd.

"But never fear! Even as we speak, our rightfully elected Dictator and his Master of Horse sail to intercept them before they soil the shores of Greece with their filth. The brave men of our auxilae stand at the ready to repel any stragglers that decide to chance their fortunes at capturing this great city. Behold the Harbour, for the Imperator, the Flagship of the Old Republic Undivided, sails to give battle with these barbarians in togas."



As one, all eyes turn to the Harbour to see a behemoth of a ship, it's red sail glistening like blood, the Roman Eagle and motif displayed proudly upon it. It's aft and forecastles stood sturdy and strong, ready to repel any boarders of the Senatorial filths. It's ram glistened a heady golden-red in the light of dawn.
Three hundred men were upon it, ready to give battle and die in the name of their Triumvirs, and for the glory of True Rome.

"For Rome!" cried out Governor-Triumvir Rex, raising a clenched left fist clutching a bloody arrow into the air. In times of peace, he would hold a laurel wreath in his right.
"For Rome!" came back identical shouts from across the Amphitheater, the Via Principalis, the Harbour, and faintly, even the Imperator itself.



Welp this is the result of my boredom...
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04.10.2016 - 15:05
Geschrieben von JF., 04.10.2016 at 14:22

Geschrieben von Tundy, 04.10.2016 at 14:20



look how that shit plan worked out and you made populares stronger. Now this plan will fail.

And what about all the other killings. You're just a snake with bad intentions.


I am only one guy, if the other 9 players are cucks then there is nothing i can do
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04.10.2016 - 15:10
When i killed phoenix i meant to provoke postatem into open conflict with populares, but obviously postatem didnt care that their members were being killed over as their leader was a push over afraid of aetius.
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04.10.2016 - 15:13
Geschrieben von Tundy, 04.10.2016 at 15:10

When i killed phoenix i meant to provoke postatem into open conflict with populares, but obviously postatem didnt care that their members were being killed over as their leader was a push over afraid of aetius.

Actually I managed to convince GC of the truth that we had not killed him, and that you were trying to frame us... As I recall you had a failed assassination attempt on your person then...
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