Republic of Rome #3

SHIP building to Acilius, pressure sell equites

Propose Lucius Flaminius Dictator, Try to persaude Lucius Julius to join the Optimate cause with 8 talents (withdraw IF needed),
Give tunder 10 talents, but only if he uses those to persuade lucius quinticius to join his faction.

Lucius Quinticius transfers his 1 talent to Lucius Flaminius.

5 on equite for leader
draw 15 from bank (3 pelanty)
12 on trying to get julius by leader (3+13+12-9-10=9)
use seduction to do it
if white got julius before me do the same but add +7 talents to the bribes (meaning draw 4 from the bank and 1 pelanty)
at end of turn everything will go to the bank
Furthermore, I consider that the anti-republicians must be destroyed.

Furthermore, I consider that NWE must be destroyed

Geschrieben von Brsjak, 05.07.2019 at 16:51

Propose Lucius Flaminius Dictator (or more or less delcare him, all conditions are met), Try to persaude Lucius Julius to join the Optimate cause with 8 talents (withdraw IF needed),
Give tunder 10 talents, but only if he uses those to persuade lucius quinticius to join his faction.

Deal accepted, putting those 10 talents + 4 more to persuade lucius quinticius with my faction leader.

If white fails the julius roll and jesus rolls for Julius, put + 8 on Julius as counter bribe
+ 4 on faction leader's roll of equite. (3 from bank)

Quadrouple Drusus' grain, five on Equite for Aulus Aelius, Aulus Aelius donates 25 wealth to our glorious republic, cast Blackmail on Sempronius and send Drusus to persuade him, of the remaining wealth half is transferred to Aulus Aelius and half to Cato

4 on equite for Sextus Sulpicius, bank rest.
Scipio persuades Camillus Fulvius, if blocked Marcus Junius, if blocked again Proclus Manlius,

Geschrieben von Brsjak, 05.07.2019 at 16:51

Propose Lucius Flaminius Dictator, Try to persaude Lucius Julius to join the Optimate cause with 8 talents (withdraw IF needed),
Give tunder 10 talents, but only if he uses those to persuade lucius quinticius to join his faction.

Lucius Quinticius transfers his 1 talent to Lucius Flaminius.

Deal cancelled altough, give tunder 6 talents as a good will.

Propose a 3rd tier landbill with me (Lucius Flaminius) as a sponsor and me (Sextus Sulpicius) as cosponsor.

Geschrieben von Brsjak, 06.07.2019 at 10:15

Propose a 3rd tier landbill with me (Lucius Flaminius) as a sponsor and me (Sextus Sulpicius) as cosponsor.

A landbill for the veterans of the Roman army and their relatives. Those who serve Rome faithfully deserve some land

Harbour fees to lucius qunticius
Should anyone try to do counterbribes on my persuasion on Lucius Julius, add more bribes from my bank, to max out my persuasion attempt.

Geschrieben von The_Empirezz, 06.07.2019 at 10:46

Geschrieben von Brsjak, 06.07.2019 at 10:15

Propose a 3rd tier landbill with me (Lucius Flaminius) as a sponsor and me (Sextus Sulpicius) as cosponsor.

A landbill for the veterans of the Roman army and their relatives. Those who serve Rome faithfully deserve some land

land bill are barbaric and not needed, it hurts the republic. but i agree, just let empi's guy stay in macedonia to pay for that bill (10 talents/year vs 10 talents once... better deal for you guys!)
rome has no money to waste and unrest is super low. there are already high pop guys, one of them is flaminius...................

Furthermore, I consider that the anti-republicians must be destroyed.

Furthermore, I consider that NWE must be destroyed

Zitat:

Geschrieben von j-e-s-u-s, 06.07.2019 at 14:46

A landbill for the veterans of the Roman army and their relatives. Those who serve Rome faithfully deserve some land

land bill are barbaric and not needed, it hurts the republic. but i agree, just let empi's guy stay in macedonia to pay for that bill (10 talents/year vs 10 talents once... better deal for you guys!)
rome has no money to waste and unrest is super low. there are already high pop guys, one of them is flaminius...................

Furthermore, I consider that the anti-republicians must be destroyed.

The republic shall be protected, rest assured.

Roll persuasion on Proclus Manlius with my faction leader and all the money i have on hand

Vote as zeph do
meme votes (dont count):

2)nay
3)Nay
1)Lucius Julius(Libertatem)
1)Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus (populare)
1) Titus Calpurnius Flamma (auctoritas)
1)Publius Acilius (optimate)
2)Caeso Terentius (unaligned)
1)Loser Praetor
2)Gay Sempronius (populares)
nay on all concessions
2)Nay (all nay voters lose -2 popularity if nay wins)
ransom - aye if bill isnt passed, nay if it does.
2)4 fleets
1) Reinforce cato with 2 veteran legions and 3 regular legions and any newly recruited fleets, 6 veterans and 7 legions to sicily under Field Consul Julius
2)Nay
2) Innocent

Furthermore, I consider that the anti-republicians must be destroyed.

Furthermore, I consider that NWE must be destroyed

Dictator Vote (if dictator is elected he will handle deployments and recruitment, the elections will however stay)
1)Augustus Furius (optimate)

Consul Vote
1)Sextus Sulpicius + Lucius Quinticius (auctoritas+optimate)

Censor Vote
2)Publius Cornelius Scipio

Praetor Vote
1)Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus (populare)

Aedile vote
1) Titus Calpurnius Flamma (auctoritas)

Replace the Governor of Sicily with:
1)Publius Acilius (optimate)

The Governor of Sardinia:
2)Caeso Terentius (unaligned)

The Governor of Further Spain:
1)Loser Praetor

The Governor of Nearer Spain:
1)Gaius Valerius(commercium)

Tax Farmer 4 +2 talents
1)Lucius Aemilius Paullus(auctoritas)

Land Commissioner
(vote as tunder did, on condition he voted similar to my pattern on the concessions)

Armaments (Rome Consul requests winner donate 1/4 to state, they may refuse but they will not get the concession)
2)Publius Cornelius Scipio Minor(auctoritas) - agree with donating to state

Tax Farmer 5 +2 talents
2)Flaminius(optimates)

Tax Farmer 6 +2 talents
1) Lucius Quinticius(optimates)

LAWS
Flaminian land Bill (Tier III)
Effects: costs -10 Talents/turn, Lucius Flaminius (Optimates) gains +4 popularity, co-sponsor: Sextus Sulpicius (Auctoritas)) +2 popularity, Rome will lose -3 unrest
1)Aye (abstain counts as aye)

PROPOSALS
The Senate shall pay the 10 talent ransom to Macedon for Lucius Aemilius Paullus
1)Aye

Recruitment
1)Max Fleets (7 if above is nay, else 6)

Deployment
2)All available armies to Sicily and new fleets to Cato

Replace Legio V Paterna with Legio VI Praesules on the cilician front?
1)Aye

Dictator Vote (if dictator is elected he will handle deployments and recruitment, the elections will however stay)
1)Augustus Furius (optimate)

Consul Vote
1)Sextus Sulpicius + Lucius Quinticius (auctoritas+optimate)

Censor Vote
2)Publius Cornelius Scipio

Praetor Vote
1)Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus (populare)

Aedile vote
1) Titus Calpurnius Flamma (auctoritas)

Replace the Governor of Sicily with:
1)Publius Acilius (optimate)

The Governor of Sardinia:
2)Caeso Terentius (unaligned)

The Governor of Further Spain:
1)Loser Praetor

The Governor of Nearer Spain:
1)Gaius Valerius(commercium)

Tax Farmer 4 +2 talents
1)Lucius Aemilius Paullus(auctoritas)

Land Commissioner
(vote as tunder did, on condition he voted similar to my pattern on the concessions)

Armaments (Rome Consul requests winner donate 1/4 to state, they may refuse but they will not get the concession)
2)Publius Cornelius Scipio Minor(auctoritas) - agree with donating to state

Tax Farmer 5 +2 talents
2)Flaminius(optimates)

Tax Farmer 6 +2 talents
1) Lucius Quinticius(optimates)

LAWS
Flaminian land Bill (Tier III)
Effects: costs -10 Talents/turn, Lucius Flaminius (Optimates) gains +4 popularity, co-sponsor: Sextus Sulpicius (Auctoritas)) +2 popularity, Rome will lose -3 unrest
1)Aye (abstain counts as aye)

PROPOSALS
The Senate shall pay the 10 talent ransom to Macedon for Lucius Aemilius Paullus
1)Aye

Recruitment
1)Max Fleets (7 if above is nay, else 6)

Deployment
2)All available armies to Sicily and new fleets to Cato

Replace Legio V Paterna with Legio VI Praesules on the cilician front?
1)Aye

Dictator: 2, bribing with Senator Vibius Popilius
Consul : 3
Censor: 3
Praetor: 3
Aedile: 3
Sicily: 2
Sardinia: 2
Further Spain: 2
Nearer Spain: 3
Concessions: Nay to all, except on land comissioner where I vote as Tunder
Land Bill: 1
Free Aemilius: 1
Recruitment: 1
Deployment: 3
Replace legions: 2
Trial: Use my tribune card (glad I kept that in hand since the beginning of the game) to veto it

These foul scum are subverting Rome's republican values, we call for true elections, not power games by the Optimates!

Vote exactly like Zephy, Except that I vote for 1) in Land Comisionar.

Abstain from all elections except concessions. Nay to all concessions.

The following measures pass:

• Terentius becomes governor of Sardinia Corsica
  
• Tiberius Servilius (Commercium) gains Land Commissioner
  
• Flaminian Land Bill passes
  
• Lucius Aemilius Paullus is ransomed
  
• 6 fleets are recruited
  

Rest of the measures fail, the Rome and Field Consul must redraft proposals....
Current candidates cannot be back again for next round of election, the exception is consuls, if in a different partnership. ie:Augustus Furius could be co-consul with Aulus Aelius.

2nd voting round is up

Consul
1)Lucius Aemillius Paullus + Aulus Aelius (Auctoritas+Concinnatores)

Censor
1)Argentus Cassius (libertatem)

Praetor
1)Augustus Furius(optimates)

The Governor of Further Spain:
1)Gaius Valerius (Commercium)

The Governor of Nearer Spain:
2)Camillus Fulvius (unaligned)

The Governor of Cisalpine Gaul:
1) Marcus Sempronius(populares)

The Governor of Illyricum:
1)Caius Plautius(populares)

Recall Cato and replace with Consul Publius Acilius (optimates)
abstain

Deployments
2) Ignore Macedon:
1 veteran +5 legions+all fleets to reinforce Cilician front
Rest to attack sicily under field consul Julius

Consul
1)Lucius Aemillius Paullus + Aulus Aelius (Auctoritas+Concinnatores)

Censor
1)Argentus Cassius (libertatem)

Praetor
1)Augustus Furius(optimates)

The Governor of Further Spain:
1)Gaius Valerius (Commercium)

The Governor of Nearer Spain:
2)Camillus Fulvius (unaligned)

The Governor of Cisalpine Gaul:
1) Marcus Sempronius(populares)

The Governor of Illyricum:
1)Caius Plautius(populares)

Recall Cato and replace with Consul Publius Acilius (optimates)
1

Deployments
2) Ignore Macedon:
1 veteran +5 legions+all fleets to reinforce Cilician front
Rest to attack sicily under field consul Julius

Consul: 1
Censor: 1
Praetor: 1
Further Spain: 3 (Send Popilius)
Nearer Spain: 2
Cisalpine: 1
Illyricum: 2
Sicily: 2
Recall Cato: 1
Deployment: 1

Vote as zeph do
meme votes (dont count):

1)Lucius Aemillius Paullus + Aulus Aelius (Auctoritas+Concinnatores)
1)Argentus Cassius (libertatem)
1)Augustus Furius(optimates)
3)Nay (Manlius)
1)Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus (populares)
3)Nay (Fulvius)
2)loser praetor
1)Aye
2)Nay
3)Nay

Furthermore, I consider that the anti-republicians must be destroyed.

Furthermore, I consider that NWE must be destroyed

Consul: 1
Censor: 1
Praetor: 1
Further Spain: 3 (Send Popilius)
Nearer Spain: 2
Cisalpine: 1
Illyricum: 2
Sicily: 2
Recall Cato: 1
Deployment: 1