Germany vs england

Does someone know a couple of trick being germany against england??

Cause im losing almost everytime on first turn.

U.k sends 40 inf easy on paris. Germany can't match it.

Dont troll me im serious im thinking about it and not much u can do i mean if u go north and u get attack caught by infantry ur screwed.
trying paris would cost to much and possibly open alot in defence.
and neitherland and belgium are very hard to get except if he doesnt try it so its like gg on first turn.

I wasn't trolling. I thought you meant why does Germany always lose to U.K when taking Paris.

Germany should be able to rape UK..Expand like hell and done you won. I recommend PD. But watch out and don't get rushed. You can also go full paris on first turn, though that's kinda faggy ;P
Get a clan that trains you btw. I'm proud of you for being rank 6 and not playing scenarios
I would give you a tiger but I ran out of them, sorry.

Losing on the first turn? well as mr own yousaid, germany cant match england in the amount of units it can get into paris, so only attempt that if you think uk wont go full paris. however it has more expansion options.

pd germany for example, can go norway, paris, benelux, denmark, sweden, poland, czech, austria, slovakia, slovenia first turn without the use of air trans(never use air trans in first turn germany expansion in 10k)

if you dont know your enemy you can play it safe with your first turn expansion, pick a bunch of these countries and use the minimum required to cap them, so if uk expands into any of the areas you choose its not devastating and you can recover

however if you do have an idea of your enemies style/preferred strats, you can take risks/educated guesses and expand heavier into certain areas you think he'll go. if you choose correctly you'll have a quick easy win

extra tips though

-wf london each turn so uk is constantly worried about his cap

-try not to lose hamburg as its an important troop deploy point on uk, it's presense combined with wfs each turn will keep uk under pressure

-if uk is leaving cities empty dont hesitate to airdrop and jew them(hate that phrase)

-you can also set yourself up to take italy on the 3rd turn, useful in the longer games as if you can hold it and berlin/scandinavia you can isolate the UK player all the while taking control of some of east europe for extra reins

Geschrieben von Permamuted, 22.12.2013 at 16:02

Losing on the first turn? well as mr own yousaid, germany cant match england in the amount of units it can get into paris, so only attempt that if you think uk wont go full paris. however it has more expansion options.

pd germany for example, can go norway, paris, benelux, denmark, sweden, poland, czech, austria, slovakia, slovenia first turn without the use of air trans(never use air trans in first turn germany expansion in 10k)

if you dont know your enemy you can play it safe with your first turn expansion, pick a bunch of these countries and use the minimum required to cap them, so if uk expands into any of the areas you choose its not devastating and you can recover

however if you do have an idea of your enemies style/preferred strats, you can take risks/educated guesses and expand heavier into certain areas you think he'll go. if you choose correctly you'll have a quick easy win

extra tips though

-wf london each turn so uk is constantly worried about his cap

-try not to lose hamburg as its an important troop deploy point on uk, it's presense combined with wfs each turn will keep uk under pressure

-if uk is leaving cities empty dont hesitate to airdrop and jew them(hate that phrase)

-you can also set yourself up to take italy on the 3rd turn, useful in the longer games as if you can hold it and berlin/scandinavia you can isolate the UK player all the while taking control of some of east europe for extra reins

-Germany can match UK on paris.

-No wtf best PD expansion is Austria Czech BeNe FullSwitz Denmark Norway Sweden Poland. You can't get paris, poland, scandi and benelux in same turn.

-I dont think getting italy in 3rd turn is a good idea, tried it before..Getting croatia + port and having much units in balkans is better.

Geschrieben von Guest, 23.12.2013 at 11:15

Geschrieben von Permamuted, 22.12.2013 at 16:02

Losing on the first turn? well as mr own yousaid, germany cant match england in the amount of units it can get into paris, so only attempt that if you think uk wont go full paris. however it has more expansion options.

pd germany for example, can go norway, paris, benelux, denmark, sweden, poland, czech, austria, slovakia, slovenia first turn without the use of air trans(never use air trans in first turn germany expansion in 10k)

if you dont know your enemy you can play it safe with your first turn expansion, pick a bunch of these countries and use the minimum required to cap them, so if uk expands into any of the areas you choose its not devastating and you can recover

however if you do have an idea of your enemies style/preferred strats, you can take risks/educated guesses and expand heavier into certain areas you think he'll go. if you choose correctly you'll have a quick easy win

extra tips though

-wf london each turn so uk is constantly worried about his cap

-try not to lose hamburg as its an important troop deploy point on uk, it's presense combined with wfs each turn will keep uk under pressure

-if uk is leaving cities empty dont hesitate to airdrop and jew them(hate that phrase)

-you can also set yourself up to take italy on the 3rd turn, useful in the longer games as if you can hold it and berlin/scandinavia you can isolate the UK player all the while taking control of some of east europe for extra reins

-Germany can match UK on paris.

-No wtf best PD expansion is Austria Czech BeNe FullSwitz Denmark Norway Sweden Poland. You can't get paris, poland, scandi and benelux in same turn.

-I dont think getting italy in 3rd turn is a good idea, tried it before..Getting croatia + port and having much units in balkans is better.

in numbers perhaps with imp, to my knowlege though not in strength, with uk you can get 42 pd inf in there with 1 transport, i dont see how germany can overcome that, feel free to show me though

and i was listing expansion choices, not the actual recommended expansion, the op will have to do his own thinking there

and in my mind theres no best expansion, that depends on the opponents own expansion and strat choices

and i disagree about italy, its not to say id always take it, but if your opponent takes italy then they can pressure the balkans, and if you cant holdand they get a foothold there youre fucked.

whereas if you can hold italy berlin and scandinavia youve got uks expansion route blocked, whereas youve the whole of the east to yourself and that = win

Now i am no Germany expert but as i play constantly vs germany as UK id say, keep some units in scandies to send to berlin when needed. Try to wall in or hold hamburg, keep all balkans safe and while its safe constantly expand while leaving some to defend germany. Send some units to frankfurt and cologne as it is often a jewing target. Get your hand on some money areas which are scandies-benelux-fullswitz-austria among others. Always wf london/birmingham and also paris.

Geschrieben von Permamuted, 23.12.2013 at 12:37

Geschrieben von Guest, 23.12.2013 at 11:15

Geschrieben von Permamuted, 22.12.2013 at 16:02

Losing on the first turn? well as mr own yousaid, germany cant match england in the amount of units it can get into paris, so only attempt that if you think uk wont go full paris. however it has more expansion options.

pd germany for example, can go norway, paris, benelux, denmark, sweden, poland, czech, austria, slovakia, slovenia first turn without the use of air trans(never use air trans in first turn germany expansion in 10k)

if you dont know your enemy you can play it safe with your first turn expansion, pick a bunch of these countries and use the minimum required to cap them, so if uk expands into any of the areas you choose its not devastating and you can recover

however if you do have an idea of your enemies style/preferred strats, you can take risks/educated guesses and expand heavier into certain areas you think he'll go. if you choose correctly you'll have a quick easy win

extra tips though

-wf london each turn so uk is constantly worried about his cap

-try not to lose hamburg as its an important troop deploy point on uk, it's presense combined with wfs each turn will keep uk under pressure

-if uk is leaving cities empty dont hesitate to airdrop and jew them(hate that phrase)

-you can also set yourself up to take italy on the 3rd turn, useful in the longer games as if you can hold it and berlin/scandinavia you can isolate the UK player all the while taking control of some of east europe for extra reins

-Germany can match UK on paris.

-No wtf best PD expansion is Austria Czech BeNe FullSwitz Denmark Norway Sweden Poland. You can't get paris, poland, scandi and benelux in same turn.

-I dont think getting italy in 3rd turn is a good idea, tried it before..Getting croatia + port and having much units in balkans is better.

in numbers perhaps with imp, to my knowlege though not in strength, with uk you can get 42 pd inf in there with 1 transport, i dont see how germany can overcome that, feel free to show me though

and i was listing expansion choices, not the actual recommended expansion, the op will have to do his own thinking there

and in my mind theres no best expansion, that depends on the opponents own expansion and strat choices

and i disagree about italy, its not to say id always take it, but if your opponent takes italy then they can pressure the balkans, and if you cant holdand they get a foothold there youre fucked.

whereas if you can hold italy berlin and scandinavia youve got uks expansion route blocked, whereas youve the whole of the east to yourself and that = win

BEST UK Rush is 42+10 I think. Or 42+9, idk. I made a vid of it, just too lazy to check This is without counting wfs though.
BUT, why would someone go THAT hard on paris as Uk at first turn? I haven't tried going hard into paris as germany but I'm pretty sure it can beat ~30 infs.
About best expansions, it depends..Obviously you won't go for both Be and Ne but I was just saying best expansion when there's no one nearly who can fuck you up.
About italy;
Okay, UK gets paris on turn 2, turn 3 he can reach a port to then take italy, turn 4 he takes italy.
Okay, Germany gets austria on turn 2, probably croatia+port on turn 3, turn 4 he takes italy.
Both can attack at same time, but I think that germany can go harder, according to a UK player that pushes and is not only going hard on italy. Average UK would go for spain and push by stacking shit.
I don't think holding italy scandi and berlin is a good idea because you can't xD, you just can't make sure to take norway & denmark away from UK on first turn. And even if you manage to do this, UK will start massive unit spamming (dem reinfs and moneyzzz), I'd say beating UK on italy battle would make him lose important units, and then start pushing france & spain cities.

If you block UK from getting Norway, and expand to Italy, Netherlands, Austria then you already have a good position , since you can expand much better.

Basically, you just have to get Norway first turn. That would be already half of the work. On Paris I would rather focus later.

I would use RA for this as a strategy since it has enough range and power to get these countries. You just have to send enough bomber supports for Italy though.

To use Syrian Forces' wise words -> Race to Rome and avoid Uk's rush in the first 5 turns.

Geschrieben von Klabauter, 24.12.2013 at 15:05

If you block UK from getting Norway, and expand to Italy, Netherlands, Austria then you already have a good position , since you can expand much better.

Basically, you just have to get Norway first turn. That would be already half of the work. On Paris I would rather focus later.

I would use RA for this as a strategy since it has enough range and power to get these countries. You just have to send enough bomber supports for Italy though.

UK is rich as fuck he can just make 2-3 ATs and get into balkans xD Literally. This is why I think that beating him on Italy and taking his cities is best way.

Geschrieben von The Tactician, 23.12.2013 at 16:42

Always wf london/birmingham and also paris.

DONT WALLFUCK

Geschrieben von a()( )() ()( ()(, 19.01.2014 at 13:40

Geschrieben von The Tactician, 23.12.2013 at 16:42

Always wf london/birmingham and also paris.

DONT WALLFUCK

lol... I know my shiz mate i mean other than first turn

Germ beats uk late game. if you make it an east v west game, you will win. You play for late game. that means block his expansions and hinder his spawn while increasing yours. Personally i'm a big NC germ fan against a UK. make him keep all his troops in uk. take st peters asap and Moscow. after that play it like PD and beat him.
-Freeland

Geschrieben von Freeland, 27.01.2014 at 20:10

Germ beats uk late game. if you make it an east v west game, you will win. You play for late game. that means block his expansions and hinder his spawn while increasing yours. Personally i'm a big NC germ fan against a UK. make him keep all his troops in uk. take st peters asap and Moscow. after that play it like PD and beat him.
-Freeland

Yes. But I lol'd at the NC part :3.

Geschrieben von Goblin, 28.01.2014 at 11:20

Geschrieben von Guest, 28.01.2014 at 10:03

Geschrieben von Freeland, 27.01.2014 at 20:10

Germ beats uk late game. if you make it an east v west game, you will win. You play for late game. that means block his expansions and hinder his spawn while increasing yours. Personally i'm a big NC germ fan against a UK. make him keep all his troops in uk. take st peters asap and Moscow. after that play it like PD and beat him.
-Freeland

Yes. But I lol'd at the NC part :3.

Wat!! Alex NC germany rules

Why pls explain.
You only make 1 transport in the first turns to expand, and extra range is not needed because you can still go full scandi + poland with PD :3.
But NC/Blitz UK is good raping germany

Germany will always win 1v1. Superior genetics.

Germany is crappy early game, but excellent cash and that means great end game. Meza, the reason it works so well is beyond first turn. First with Scand and St peters income, you make boats in norway (4) gothenburg (3) denmark (3) sweden (4) finland (4) and st petersburg (8) that adds up to 26 destroyers every 4 turns. considering the 11 attack on the destroyers and inf have about 8 defense, 26(11)=286 286/8= 35 inf it makes you win troop count, and considering every city but birmingham is a port, you can harrass UK hardcore. So meanwhile you are keeping uk's troops in their homecountry, you get "freeland" (hehehe the puns) expansion.

A second point to make is that in 1v1, if you want to make the game about out playing your player not your expansion, choose a middle country. MY personal favorite middle countries are Germ Italy and Austria. If you take it to them early, they cant really utilize expansions.
-Freeland

Geschrieben von Freeland, 29.01.2014 at 08:45

inf have about 8 defense

9 defence when PD.

And costwise, UK can buy over 3 for every destroyer.

Geschrieben von EndsOfInvention, 29.01.2014 at 10:55

Geschrieben von Freeland, 29.01.2014 at 08:45

inf have about 8 defense

9 defence when PD.

And costwise, UK can buy over 3 for every destroyer.

This is true. But trust me when I say you want him so be on the defensive and keeping all his troops defending your boats then taking say rome etc. you gotta cage the beast. so while you are making him defend in uk you use your other troops to get rome and fill up east. It's only supposed to hurt his troop count while you enhance yours.
-Freeland

Geschrieben von Freeland, 29.01.2014 at 08:45

Germany is crappy early game, but excellent cash and that means great end game. Meza, the reason it works so well is beyond first turn. First with Scand and St peters income, you make boats in norway (4) gothenburg (3) denmark (3) sweden (4) finland (4) and st petersburg (8) that adds up to 26 destroyers every 4 turns. considering the 11 attack on the destroyers and inf have about 8 defense, 26(11)=286 286/8= 35 inf it makes you win troop count, and considering every city but birmingham is a port, you can harrass UK hardcore. So meanwhile you are keeping uk's troops in their homecountry, you get "freeland" (hehehe the puns) expansion.

A second point to make is that in 1v1, if you want to make the game about out playing your player not your expansion, choose a middle country. MY personal favorite middle countries are Germ Italy and Austria. If you take it to them early, they cant really utilize expansions.
-Freeland

170 * 24 = 4080
Expensive and there are more reinfs on land than reinfs on ports. I rather go PD and spam ATs, it's better.

Reinfs on port = Hamburg 5 Oslo 4 Gothenburg 3 Copenhagen 3 Stockholm 4 Helsinki 4 St. Petesburg 8 PolandCityIdontKnowItsName 1 Lithuania 2 Estonia 1 RNWcityIdontKnowItsName 1 DenmarkCityIdontKnowItsName 1 NorwayCityIdontKnowItsName 1 AnotherNorwayCity 1 AnotherFinlandCity 1 = 40

40 destroyers = 6800
Land reinfs, including Italy are about 150.

25 ATs + 125 Infs = 20k
150 infs = 7500

RNWcityIdontKnowItsName

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Geschrieben von Unleashed, 30.01.2014 at 03:21

RNWcityIdontKnowItsName

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Best abreviations ever :3