Testing and results of new nerfed Blitzkrieg

They removed defense bonus in own city.

Geschrieben von W4R_MaChINE, 26.04.2015 at 07:41

They removed defense bonus in own city.

yes that makes defence 5 when defending city, pd militia has stronger defence, and cmoon' we always defend cities, we don't defend random places on map

Geschrieben von clovis1122, 26.04.2015 at 08:11

Geschrieben von Steve Aoki, 26.04.2015 at 05:44

Spain. Kamikaza style. You could use it to send 30 units on germany or turkey, being able to reach everything with more then 11 units from bulgaria over poland reaching even denmark with 18 units.
If we are talking specificly about blitz ukraine, it was just way to easy to play with it. I've played it a lot of times lately, before nerf, and i 'exploited' it, and trust me when i say it, there was no way you could beat blitz ukraine unless he made some huge mistake. The thing that was also op was blitz ukr in 3v3 games (cws). If you were just a little bit skilled player, you could send 20-30 units to help west without risking to lose kiev, cuzz.. you know.. big range.. at least 20-30 militias there with also infs for which you had no need to use air transports to reach kiev. And now you caaannnt dooo thaaaattt ^^ Now you cant stack kiev with blitz militias and excpect to survive.
And question to soldier and any other blitz player, pls tell me on which country except ukraine does this nerf hurts you? On blitz italy when you rush germany? On spain rushing balkans and germany countries? Where? pls tell me? or its only on your blitz turkey rush with militias which you where the only one i saw using it. 90 militias rush hah.. now even if you take it.. enemy gonna take it back without any problem

Prove it to be "op" as I've said previously. Honestly I had beat bltz anywhere and I don't see how is hard for Germany to beat either Spain or Italy.

Now, Blitz Ukraine is strong, but even those who support this nerf already said IT IS BEATABLE.

Either way, the change is done.

I can give you my word hah. The effort you have to put into beating someone with blitz ukraine is far less then beating someone with sm or pd or gw or any other strategy.
Spain example was for 3v3. Italy example was that the nerf didnt affect blitz in that situation.

Geschrieben von BountyKiller, 26.04.2015 at 06:48

Geschrieben von Kromn, 26.04.2015 at 06:30

Geschrieben von W4R_MaChINE, 26.04.2015 at 06:22

Geschrieben von Croat, 26.04.2015 at 06:19

Geschrieben von Waffel, 26.04.2015 at 06:08

Nice decision

i think they removed the city defense bonuses from militia and infantry tho

Geschrieben von Goblin, 26.04.2015 at 10:07

Geschrieben von clovis1122, 26.04.2015 at 08:11

Now, Blitz Ukraine is strong, but even those who support this nerf already said IT IS BEATABLE.

Give me one reason why any player should have the advantage of having the "its beatable" country?

And don't respond with your usual crap ...give me a direct answer.

You want me to give you a direct answer even though you ironed the concept "Its beatable".

First, you should know what does advantage means, but for god sake I am assuming we are talking about "overall".

Now I am sorry for give you an usual crappy answer: Every country will have a set of advantages against other countries. This is a fact.

You don't know how to use your set of advantage... end up in cry threads like "nerf blitz, cause blitz ukr is op".

There is some point i must remark, how many people knows how to use blitz ukraine properly?, what could i possible do with my blitz ukr against your pro turkeys? and, is this a reason to nerf a strategy? blitz ukr is only op in the hands of a few players with general

Geschrieben von Goblin, 26.04.2015 at 10:49

Geschrieben von clovis1122, 26.04.2015 at 10:28

You don't know how to use your set of advantage... end up in cry threads like "nerf blitz, cause blitz ukr is op".

As usual you gave shit for answers ...above sentence makes no sense.

Give me a direct answer for this ...is blitz ukraine OP? ...no fucking explanation with "its beatable" its this its that bullshit.

Yes or No? ...and you keep in mind what OP means, it means overpowered.

Blitz Ukraine can be a unbalanced op piece of shit, but that doesn't mean we nerf a strategy that works as intended in 99.999999% of the maps in atwar just because a minority complained.

Geschrieben von Goblin, 26.04.2015 at 10:59

Geschrieben von Tundy, 26.04.2015 at 10:53

Blitz Ukraine can be a unbalanced op piece of shit, but that doesn't mean we nerf a strategy that works as intended in 99.999999% of the maps in atwar just because a minority complained.

Please tunder ...don't talk about the minority since you were a minority not so long ago in a different AW situation.

And nobody has yet proven at all that this nerf is goin to make blitz unusable or weak ...i know how i play blitz, and this change affects nothing to my blitz play style.

Blitzkrieg could get -10 defense Helicopters and it won't affect my game style, yet i wouldn't support a nerf to blitz helicopters

Geschrieben von Goblin, 26.04.2015 at 11:13

Geschrieben von Tundy, 26.04.2015 at 11:04

Blitzkrieg could get -10 defense Helicopters and it won't affect my game style, yet i wouldn't support a nerf to blitz helicopters

No no no please ...don't respond to my last sentence, respond to the one you couldn't answer

Does this make blitzkrieg unusable?

P.S. i used helis many times with blitz.

it makes it weaker, militia are so useless with -2 that i may aswell leave the cities empty like in the old times and wall-spam

Geschrieben von Goblin, 26.04.2015 at 11:36

Geschrieben von Tundy, 26.04.2015 at 11:25

it makes it weaker, militia are so useless with -2 that i may aswell leave the cities empty like in the old times and wall-spam

I didn't ask you does it make it weaker, i asked does it make blitz unusable. Militia is changed back to -1 ...and yes, thats how blitz is played, by emptying cities and using walls, like a strategy that has a defense on nerf should be used.

Than PD shouldnt be able to rush that easily and with 58 infs kill 105 secondary def units. Strategy that 'has' nerf on attack, shouldnt be able to kill stacks this easily

Geschrieben von clovis1122, 26.04.2015 at 11:27

NO. BLITZ UKRAINE IS NOT OP. BUT IF ICELAND IS THE MOST OP COUNTRY EVER.
Do you finally understand it?... Terminologies like "op" in the arguments you are "trying" to use only recalls subjectivity.

No Clovis, terms like OP can be measured objectively.

Everyone knows how much Ukraine is powerful because of its reinforcements rate combined with a large starting cash and strategies like SM and blitz.
It has an advantage over any country in Europe + ...and combined with a high range of blitz it can take dozens of high income countries up to turn 2.

Greatest counter for it? ...turkey ..."it can beat it if you do the right shit turkey" ...don't cap to soon he will recap with gazillion units, don't try to cap to late he is gona have 200 units in kiev, do the exact pattern or else ...all the while he is going sha la la la la.

Clovis ...fuck off with your idiotic pseudo-philosophy.

Btw. everyone seem to forgot about the lowered price on tanks blitz got not so long ago.

Blitz ukraine is op becuse of the free balkan militia. with this implemented turkey can expand better

Blitz ukr isnt that op ...train turk more less cry

I blame zone for this .....him and his blitz ukr ! zaaaaa

Who the fuck asked me to prove that the nerf does any good?
Who would even ask himself, does a nerf do any good for a strategy?

Wait ...so now i can't ask a question? ...and you call it a logical fallacy? ... ... AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Geschrieben von Ferlucci1389, 26.04.2015 at 13:05

Blitz ukr isnt that op ...train turk more less cry

tell us blitz weakness then

Geschrieben von Kromn, 26.04.2015 at 18:27

Rush t3 idiot and gg

Few weeks ago cries all over AW like a little bitch, seeks support of fellow players, cries more, says goodbyes, writes letters, tears...

Gets free premium from Ivan ...suddenly he is the boss of AW, threats people like crap, sends me messages IDIOT!!!

Tito was right ...fuck me Tito was right.

Geschrieben von clovis1122, 26.04.2015 at 18:58

PLZ POINT OUT COUNTRY + STRATEGY NAME NOT SIMPLY "Blitz is strong".

What? ...just because you wrote down names of every damn country and typed YES and NO next to them ...THATS A RELIABLE STATISTICAL RESEARCH??? xD
You wrote down ...oh ...your subjectiv opinion, didn't you?

I don't agree with half of that shit ...is your word better then mine? Are you more expirienced with blitz then me? Are you all knowing?

I don't have to give you combos ...i gave you first of all "the free long ranged militia" argument, easy expansion using no skills argument, you your self said ukraine is op with blitz ...makes me wonder how many combos are necessary? 1 obviously not enough ...2? 3? 4? 700?

Most important 2 countries in both duels and 3v3 and most tourney games ...and its not important that one country is superior to another? Interesting logic.

...ok go ahead now again, quote me say "you didnt understand i think" and ask me again for the combos like something is seriously wrong with you.

Guys just give it a rest already. No offense but I'd imagine everything of value that could be said on this topic has already been said.

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good because things got boring with all the blitz noobs in atwar. i might be active again.

Just wanted to share with the community, how much i enjoy all this crying.XAXAXA. this made my day, keep crying please


p.s. feel sorry for poor Lao and Gob who have to deal with all of this..and with clovis on top

p.s2. XAXAXXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAX

Geschrieben von Khal.eesi, 26.04.2015 at 19:22

Just wanted to share with the community, how much i enjoy all this crying.XAXAXA. this made my day, keep crying please

> tells people against nerfing blitz cry
> cried on 22 threads for nerfing blitz

this is not ironically anymore, this becomes cynically. Seems you will have to prepare few molotovs for me, I already prepared bullets for u

Geschrieben von Acquiesce, 26.04.2015 at 19:16

Guys just give it a rest already. No offense but I'd imagine everything of value that could be said on this topic has already been said.

there's nothing else to add. Let it disappear

Geschrieben von Abraham, 26.04.2015 at 19:38

Geschrieben von Acquiesce, 26.04.2015 at 19:16

Guys just give it a rest already. No offense but I'd imagine everything of value that could be said on this topic has already been said.

there's nothing else to add. Let it disappear

Let me and Khal finish this thread in our way..

Firstly, I will kill all than Khal will burn all

Geschrieben von Croat, 26.04.2015 at 19:33

Geschrieben von Khal.eesi, 26.04.2015 at 19:22

Just wanted to share with the community, how much i enjoy all this crying.XAXAXA. this made my day, keep crying please

> tells people against nerfing blitz cry
> cried on 22 threads for nerfing blitz

this is not ironically anymore, this becomes cynically. Seems you will have to prepare few molotovs for me, I already prepared bullets for u

i never cried about blitz i just stated my opinion. And now im enjoying your crying in bad english. Now stick the bullets in your little a-hole and cry some more for mommie pleaseeeeee xD

Geschrieben von Khal.eesi, 26.04.2015 at 19:51

Geschrieben von Croat, 26.04.2015 at 19:33

Geschrieben von Khal.eesi, 26.04.2015 at 19:22

Just wanted to share with the community, how much i enjoy all this crying.XAXAXA. this made my day, keep crying please

> tells people against nerfing blitz cry
> cried on 22 threads for nerfing blitz

this is not ironically anymore, this becomes cynically. Seems you will have to prepare few molotovs for me, I already prepared bullets for u

i never cried about blitz i just stated my opinion. And now im enjoying your crying in bad english. Now stick the bullets in your little a-hole and cry some more for mommie pleaseeeeee xD

Go khal!

Geschrieben von Khal.eesi, 26.04.2015 at 19:51

Geschrieben von Croat, 26.04.2015 at 19:33

Geschrieben von Khal.eesi, 26.04.2015 at 19:22

Just wanted to share with the community, how much i enjoy all this crying.XAXAXA. this made my day, keep crying please

> tells people against nerfing blitz cry
> cried on 22 threads for nerfing blitz

this is not ironically anymore, this becomes cynically. Seems you will have to prepare few molotovs for me, I already prepared bullets for u

i never cried about blitz i just stated my opinion. And now im enjoying your crying in bad english. Now stick the bullets in your little a-hole and cry some more for mommie pleaseeeeee xD

Nice calling your cry as stating opinions....... xaxaxa

Geschrieben von clovis1122, 26.04.2015 at 20:21

This is AtWar, not Chess. If you are looking for a fair battle you should play another game.

Oh you changing your story now? ...up until now it was, everything can beat everything, nothing is OP, but now you admit that AW picks can be unfair, which was in fact the point of my argument and pointing out that 1 country does matter when the whole fucking game revolves around it.

And then you contradict that with ..."go play another game". Bravo mate ...you are a first class AW forum debater.
You yelling NO YOU CANT GIVE AN EXAMPLE ...is hilarious. You consider your self an expert of something on AW, because you made a few "help topics"?

I used blitz everywhere, on all maps, all settings and funds ...because its easy and quick. You wan't a combo?
Lazy motherfucker who wants to kill someone quick with no thinking + blitz ...there's your fucking combo.

> Each one tells to another that he doesnt have arguments
> Each one using all he said as argument
> Each one tell to another that he is poor debater and should go playing another game

What we know more than we knew in 15th comment? Nothing
What we have proven more than in 1st comment? Nothing

Nobody will change his opinions, you can 'debate' here forever.
Guys, it is time to stop.

IF NOTHING, WE MADE MOU SUPPORT KHAL AND VICE VERSA. URAAAAAAA

Geschrieben von Goblin, 26.04.2015 at 18:32

Geschrieben von Kromn, 26.04.2015 at 18:27

Rush t3 idiot and gg

Few weeks ago cries all over AW like a little bitch, seeks support of fellow players, cries more, says goodbyes, writes letters, tears...

Gets free premium from Ivan ...suddenly he is the boss of AW, threats people like crap, sends me messages IDIOT!!!

Tito was right ...fuck me Tito was right.

Goblin, if you waste your time with this idiot Pavle, you are going to drive yourself crazy.